[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Re: [Peace] Governor signs Israeli bill; not opposed by local Democrats

Sat Jul 25 14:50:02 EDT 2015

Even pompous self-absorbed asses can’t be wrong all the time.

Listen to what they say, and see if they’re right. I try to.

> On Jul 25, 2015, at 1:42 PM, John <jlvlo1945 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mr.  Kay, of course you are  correct-CGE is a pompous self-absorbed ass.  Don't take him too seriously.  I really don't think he takes himself that seriously either,  which makes him a lot more bearable.  Unfortunately,  I agree with his positions more often than not.
> From: 'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com [sf-core] <mailto:sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: ‎25/‎7/‎2015 11:45
> To: C. G. ESTABROOK <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>
> Cc: Gregg Gordon <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>; Bruce KAY <mailto:bruce.kay at homemail.com.au>; sf-core <mailto:sf-core at yahoogroups.com>; occupycu <mailto:occupyCU at lists.chambana.net>; Peace Discuss <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Subject: [sf-core] Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Governor signs Israeli bill;not opposed by local Democrats
> 
> Sorry. I meant to ask, What did you think of South African apartheid?
> 
> 
> If the South African government had engineered a vote in its favor in the Illinois legislature a generation ago, what do you think your representatives should have done?
> 
> The parallel isn’t exact: Israeli apartheid in the Occupied Territories is worse than South African apartheid ever was.
> 
> —CGE
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you score on South African apartheid?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with Mr. Kay.  Thanks for speaking up.
>>> 
>>> Gregg Gordon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:40 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you say the same if they’d failed to vote against apartheid in South Africa?
>>> 
>>> (BTW, I haven’t done a radio program in years: are you sure you’re listening to others’ points of view?)
>>> 
>>> Regards, CGE
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Bruce KAY <bruce.kay at homemail.com.au <mailto:bruce.kay at homemail.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mr Estabrook,
>>>> 
>>>> You are a painfully single-issue twat. You have zero political nous. You fail to understand that Scott Bennett and Carol Ammons are good representatives of Champaign Urbana despite that they are not Green Party members and despite that they do not always agree with you sir, You show no tolerance of the compromises Carol and Scott are forced to make as working politicians attempting to achieve the policies they perceive as most important for our C-U constituency. You fail to understand, let alone acknowledge the cut and thrust of state politics. You try to bask in your former glory as a past candidate, without ever grasping the real reason why you never got elected. Because you are uncompromising. You pontificate on your radio program with obnoxious opinions, consistently displaying your inability to listen to others’ points of view.
>>>> 
>>>> For the past few weeks I have desisted from commenting on your tirade of harassment of Carol Ammons and Scott Bennett. But you are so one-eyed that your opinions amount to harassment.
>>>> 
>>>> I too favor the Green Party, and support Jill Stein for President. But I don’t subscribe to your brand of hateful chauvinist aggression
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please Mr C G Estabrook, pull your head in.
>>>> 
>>>> Nobody wants to be harangued by your diatribe of hatred. 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> bruce.kay at homemail.com.au <mailto:bruce.kay at homemail.com.au>
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>>>> +61 412 213 689 (in Australia)
>>>> Home address: 96 Murranji Street Hawker ACT Australia 2614
>>>> Address in USA: 4018 N. Lincoln Avenue Champaign ILL USA 61822
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>>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 20:34, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/new-illinois-law-does-not-make-bds-illegal <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__electronicintifada.net_blogs_nora-2Dbarrows-2Dfriedman_new-2Dillinois-2Dlaw-2Ddoes-2Dnot-2Dmake-2Dbds-2Dillegal&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7giHR9b5Iyfnr1E_Oka2alPOUR-cBWOcRwpPYxH7INc&s=sM8XL4kcIzYrV6nmI8lr3um2OFTTDZJjQ7ynX3EEPLo&e=>
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>>>>> The self-styled liberals from C-U, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons, refused to vote against this bill, promoted by the government of Israel. The bill supports Israeli apartheid: they would not have refused to vote against a bill supporting South African apartheid a generation ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> —CGE
>>>> 
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