[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Re: [Peace] Governor signs Israeli bill; not opposed by local Democrats

Sat Jul 25 19:06:29 EDT 2015

the situations are entirely different, but no one has the sheer 
endurance to continue an a discussion with you when you simply repeat 
yourself ad infinitum. One thing i learned as a mother is never to 
engage in a contest of wills with a two year old because he has nothing 
better to do.
On 7/25/2015 5:26 PM, 'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com 
[sf-core] wrote:
>
> I take your failure to answer to be a recognition that our 
> representatives should vote against apartheid, in South Africa and Israel.
>
> The legal maxim is, ‘If the facts are for you, argue the facts; if the 
> law is for you, argue the law; if neither, attack opposing counsel.'
>
> > On Jul 25, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not surprisingly you're missing the point. The point has nothing to 
> do with South Africa, or even Israel. The point is you're a -- well, 
> pompous ass is accurate enough, but too cliched. Donald Trump comes to 
> mind as an apt comparison, except some people take him seriously, so I 
> guess I'm at a loss. Nevertheless, that your missives are uniformly 
> hostile and boorish, I can tolerate. Sometimes they even amuse me for 
> their total lack of judgment and sense of scale, much the way Trump 
> does. What does not amuse me is they are counterproductive to moving 
> toward the better world everyone on these lists wants to see. So I 
> wish you'd shut up, but I know you won't.
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:45 PM, C. G. Estabrook 
> <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sorry. I meant to ask, What did you think of South African apartheid?
> >
> > If the South African government had engineered a vote in its favor 
> in the Illinois legislature a generation ago, what do you think your 
> representatives should have done?
> >
> > The parallel isn’t exact: Israeli apartheid in the Occupied 
> Territories is worse than South African apartheid ever was.
> >
> > —CGE
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Carl G. Estabrook 
> <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
> >>
> > Have you score on South African apartheid?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Mr. Kay. Thanks for speaking up.
> >
> > Gregg Gordon
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:40 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace 
> <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Would you say the same if they’d failed to vote against apartheid in 
> South Africa?
> >
> > (BTW, I haven’t done a radio program in years: are you sure you’re 
> listening to others’ points of view?)
> >
> > Regards, CGE
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Bruce KAY <bruce.kay at homemail.com.au> 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mr Estabrook,
> >>
> >> You are a painfully single-issue twat. You have zero political 
> nous. You fail to understand that Scott Bennett and Carol Ammons are 
> good representatives of Champaign Urbana despite that they are not 
> Green Party members and despite that they do not always agree with you 
> sir, You show no tolerance of the compromises Carol and Scott are 
> forced to make as working politicians attempting to achieve the 
> policies they perceive as most important for our C-U constituency. You 
> fail to understand, let alone acknowledge the cut and thrust of state 
> politics. You try to bask in your former glory as a past candidate, 
> without ever grasping the real reason why you never got elected. 
> Because you are uncompromising. You pontificate on your radio program 
> with obnoxious opinions, consistently displaying your inability to 
> listen to others’ points of view.
> >>
> >> For the past few weeks I have desisted from commenting on your 
> tirade of harassment of Carol Ammons and Scott Bennett. But you are so 
> one-eyed that your opinions amount to harassment.
> >>
> >> I too favor the Green Party, and support Jill Stein for President. 
> But I don’t subscribe to your brand of hateful chauvinist aggression
> >>
> >>
> >> Please Mr C G Estabrook, pull your head in.
> >>
> >> Nobody wants to be harangued by your diatribe of hatred.
> >> Bruce
> >> bruce.kay at homemail.com.au
> >> +1 217 419 9140 (in the USA)
> >> +61 412 213 689 (in Australia)
> >> Home address: 96 Murranji Street Hawker ACT Australia 2614
> >> Address in USA: 4018 N. Lincoln Avenue Champaign ILL USA 61822
> >> _________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 20:34, C. G. Estabrook 
> <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/new-illinois-law-does-not-make-bds-illegal
> >>>
> >>> The self-styled liberals from C-U, state senator Scott Bennett and 
> state representative Carol Ammons, refused to vote against this bill, 
> promoted by the government of Israel. The bill supports Israeli 
> apartheid: they would not have refused to vote against a bill 
> supporting South African apartheid a generation ago.
> >>>
> >>> —CGE
> >>
> >
>
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