[Peace-discuss] what's up with the Clinton nuke bailout?

[Robert Naiman]

Considering the argument that we should subsidize nuclear power because of
climate change: shouldn't Exelon, or someone, have to show that this is the
most efficient way to achieve reductions in carbon emissions for the amount
of subsidy?



Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
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naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> I consider this largely as an ignorant statement.  *Some* people are
> screaming— it becomes a fetish— and most of those are trading on an fear
> bred from ignorance. Even for TMI, Chernobyl and Fukushima, mortality rates
> from nuclear power per se  have been, all sources considered ( in mining,
> in construction, pollution, …),  lower than for other principal sources of
> energy. The dangers from present reactors are essentially nonexistent. Fear
> has made the consequences of the extreme examples above worse. What do one
> really know about the harms emanating presently from Hanford, or leakage of
> tritium from a few reactors? Meanwhile, we all receive the benefits from
> nuclear radiation in our health systems, and think little about it. One
> might note that small amounts of toxic materials often have beneficial
> effects, medications and x-rays ,for example. Human physiology has adapted
> to the natural radiations of the environments throughout (human) evolution.
> It’s probably inherent in our immune systems. Meanwhile, nuclear power
> plants will have to be used to limit carbon emissions/ global warming in
> future decades, so even if not “economical” compared to fossil fuels now,
> it behooves states to develop and produce  even better reactors in the
> future. This is increasingly being recognized by governments and
> environmentalists. China and India, among others, are planning to develop
> and increase their nuclear power sources. There are too many
> unsubstanciated assertions in the discussion below, as regards France for
> example.
>
> Finally, I offer the opinion that the production and distribution of
> energy should not be under private profit making corporations.
>
> —mkb
>
>
> Bob
>
> Good question, because all around the world people are screaming to close
> down nuclear plants. In the US we have Hanford in the state of Washington,
> which has been leaking dangerous amounts of radiation for some time now.
> Turkey Point in Fla. is a problem. And, one must keep in mind the US hasn't
> built a new nuclear plant in over 36 years. It's true Westinghouse has
> developed the most up to date model, they are marketing.
>
> In France, the #1 when it comes to building nuclear power plants, workers
> have gone on strike and now management is attempting to prevent cool downs
> which are very dangerous if not controlled properly. Managers are not
> necessarily skilled workers either.
>
> The Chinese put a hold on their production of new plants after the
> Fukashima disaster, though I will have to update my info. on that.
>
>
> The concern over workers being unemployed is a joke, given the lack of
> concern for workers in general in this state/nation.
>
> *Maybe it's because there is big money in the financing of upgrading
> nuclear power plants that has this issue on the table of concern. Or, the
> fact that prices are coming down for solar, which also provides employment,
> and doesn't degrade the environment.*
>
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> *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] what's up with the Clinton nuke bailout?
>
> Could someone please explain to us why it's a good idea to have a
> ratepayer bailout of Exelon's nuclear power plants?
>
> "Exelon's plan would raise electric rates statewide -- it said it would
> cost the typical residential user about 25 cents a month — in order to keep
> open the Clinton plant and another nuclear unit near the Quad Cities.
> Exelon said earlier this month that the plants have lost about $800 million
> over the last six years, mainly because natural gas prices have been so low
> and have undercut nuclear power's cost."
>
>
> http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2016-05-30/sponsor-no-vote-exelon-bill-future-clinton-plant-unclear.html
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