[Peace-discuss] Good Riddance Killary! Hillary R Clinton. We Came, We Saw, He Died"

Jay futureup2us at gmail.com
Wed Nov 9 14:47:23 UTC 2016


I couldn’t agree with you more about HRC demonizing herself. She is a war criminal with a proven record that deserves vilification, and more. 
However, I see nothing to celebrate in Trump’s triumph. I think all of us on this email chain recognize and are gearing up for the struggles to come. 
I thought you’d be interested in Revolution newspaper’s comment below. 
Good news: Students and young people have been out in the streets already! A time for daring, not despair...

Jay

5 a.m., November 9, 2016. 
A vile fascist has been elected President of the United States. 
There must be no illusions that somehow this will be OK. It won't. 
Every immigrant, woman, Black, Latino, Native American, Muslim or differently gendered person... every person who cares about the planet, every person with even an elementary sense of justice and compassion—all over the world—has reason to hurt and be concerned for the future like never before. 
All that Trump represents must not stand. Starting today, there must be massive resistance to everything Donald Trump represents and every reactionary measure that he has promised to deliver. This is a time for courage, not despair. Struggle, not retreat, escape or conciliation. 
Donald Trump promised to “Make America Great Again.” Hillary Clinton countered that America was already great. The reality: America Was Never Great. This country has been a nightmare from its founding with enslavement of Africans and the genocide of Native Americans, continuing through theft of Mexico and on through the endless wars and invasions of countries and peoples around the world while here at home the horror is unrelenting for tens of millions. The American nightmare is real, and it has just gotten more horrific. 
But, this too is real: Donald Trump is a grotesque representative of a system that has a name—capitalism-imperialism—and this system means, and can only mean, misery and horrors for majority of humanity. Through the whole election process this vicious buffoon has been treated as a legitimate candidate for president. Any system that treats such a racist and misogynist fascist as legitimate reveals itself to be illegitimate. There should be no illusions or rationalizations to explain this reality away. And, the fact that there has been and will continue to be such intense ugly infighting among the ruling class reveals a system facing major challenges and in crisis, and potential openings and freedom to be wrenched for the struggle of the people for a radically new and better world. 
Trump represents an even more grotesque and openly murderous form of this system, and his attacks against the people should be met with massive resistance. But what is needed will NOT be to return to what has been, continuing the same brutal system, its crimes and horrors. 
What is needed and possible is a radically new society, and a radically different kind of state, that will open the way and lead finally to the abolition of all forms of oppressive and repressive rule and all relations of domination and exploitation, throughout the world. 
This is a society charted and embodied in the Constitution for the New Socialist Republic in North America. This path-breaking work is authored by Bob Avakian, architect of the new communism, and the leader of the revolution—an ACTUAL revolution, to overthrow this system at the soonest possible time. 
HOW WE CAN WIN—How We Can Really Make Revolution <http://www.revcom.us/a/457/how-we-can-win-en.html>, from the Central Committee of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA starts with this foundational point: 
An actual revolution does not mean trying to make some changes withinthis system—it means overthrowing this system and bringing into being a radically different and far better system. This system of capitalism-imperialism cannot be reformed. There is no way, under this system, to put an end to the brutality and murder by police, the wars and destruction of people and the environment, the exploitation, oppression and degradation of millions and billions of people, including the half of humanity that is female, here and throughout the world—all of which is rooted in profound contradictions built into the basic functioning, relations, and structures of this system. Only an actual revolution can bring about the fundamental change that is needed.
This is a time for Daring. People need to be in the streets and getting into, and getting with, the revolution. 
See "As news of Trump's election hits: Protests Erupt Across the Country <http://www.revcom.us/a/464/protests-erupt-across-the-country-en.html>"




> On Nov 9, 2016, at 08:43, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> 
> HRC 'demonized’ herself by being an enthusiastic participant in murder on behalf to the US 1% in Serbia, Honduras, Libya, Syria - and planning more. 
> 
> For the first time in 40 years we have a president(-elect) who’s not a neoconservative (more war) or a neoliberal (more inequality). Clinton is both. 
> 
> There are of course serious problems with a Trump presidency (climate change at the top of the list) and the War Party won’t go away (we still have two months of Obama) - but the news is surely good for the anti-war movement - and the world at large.   
> 
> --CGE
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Bryan Savage <bryan at sneezingdogs.com> wrote:
>> 
>> did anyone stop to think that demonizing HRC and supporting third parties might actually help put trump in office?  or does everyone on this list have clean hands and a clean conscience and feel that they took no part in electing this:
>> 
>> <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IQ_XcztaXd0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
>> 
>> take me off this list.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> We have to double down our efforts in building the Green Party, given what we are facing. Will Trump demilitarize, as some on the left seem to think? I doubt it. Let’s see who he chooses for his Cabinet. He already has a war monger/fascist style for a running mate.
>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 04:57, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the Greens on the list:Too bad what happened to Jill. I voted for her the last time too.
>>> Fab.
>>> 

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