[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Bring on the protesters we really need them now, if these two guys are the choices.......

Stuart Levy salevy at illinois.edu
Wed Nov 16 16:12:06 UTC 2016 

Please keep this off the Peace list.   Peace-discuss is pretty much 
open, but we should keep "peace" for announcements and calls to action, 
rather than general discussions.

On 11/16/16 9:51 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote:
> The articles are not contradictory.
>
> I suggest you try “reading," thats why I post, for those who maybe 
> interested in reading, I’m not attempting to contact you “personally,” 
> no need for paranoia.
>
> I did ask Stuart to send you instructions on how to “delete”, you do 
> know how to delete don’t you?
>
>
>
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 06:33, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I told you to leave me alone, and you won't do it.  Now you've 
>> sent me two articles -- neither from a credible source -- making 
>> completely contradictory arguments.  What am I (or anyone) supposed 
>> to do with that?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>>
>> *To:* Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>>
>> *Cc:* peace <peace at lists.chambana.net 
>> <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>>; Peace Discuss 
>> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:20 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace] Bring on the protesters we really need them 
>> now, if these two guys are the choices.......
>>
>> Speaking with you Greg, is a headache because you just want to argue, 
>> complain and make personal attacks, you don’t stick to the issues. 
>> Also, the last time I sent something out you told me personally to 
>> leave you alone.
>>
>>  To be clear, I have never supported Trump or any republican, I spent 
>> five years working with and organizing the US Democrats Abroad in 
>> Thailand, volunteerism, when living there.  That was before Clinton, 
>> and I voted for Obama’s “hope and change”. Now that I know what they 
>> have done I will never support the Democratic Party again.
>>
>> I will support local democrats on an individual basis of course, 
>> based upon their performance, goals and values.
>>
>> It’s time Americans rebuild our nation and its going to require a lot 
>> of work, maybe now they have awakened to the fact that concern with 
>> politics is important and we have a lot of work to do. Had Hillary 
>> been elected people would have gone to sleep and assumed everything 
>> was alright, just as they did when Obama was elected.
>>
>> We have very serious issues of concern and we need to deal with them.
>>
>> End of conversation.
>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 06:04, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can't you speak for yourself?
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com 
>>> <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>>
>>> *To:* Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>>
>>> *Cc:* peace <peace at lists.chambana.net 
>>> <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>>; Peace Discuss 
>>> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:57 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace] Bring on the protesters we really need them 
>>> now, if these two guys are the choices.......
>>>
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>>>>           Bruce A. Dixon
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>>>> 8 hrs 
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>>>> Libsyn
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>>>>
>>>> War Less Imminent in Wake of Trump Election
>>>> A Black Agenda Radio commentary by executive editor Glen Ford
>>>> “Trump says he wants to cooperate with the Syrians and the Russians 
>>>> to defeat ISIS.”
>>>> With so many people who call themselves liberals and leftists 
>>>> tearing their hair out in dread of a President Donald Trump, it is 
>>>> necessary to point out that the prospects of avoiding nuclear war 
>>>> are much better than they were the day before the election. Hillary 
>>>> Clinton was committed to imposing a “no fly zone” over Syria that 
>>>> would have meant instant war with Russia, likely resulting in the 
>>>> annihilation of the human species. You’d think that would have made 
>>>> Clinton anathema to decent people. But Americans, including those 
>>>> who call themselves liberals, are not decent people – not really. 
>>>> Based on their political behavior, they just pretend to be decent, 
>>>> but support U.S. governments that have slaughtered millions since 
>>>> the end of World War Two. If you voted for Obama and Clinton, you 
>>>> gave your assent to continuing George Bush’s wars, allowing Obama 
>>>> to start two major wars of his own, in Libya and Syria, and to 
>>>> Hillary Clinton’s plans to roll the nuclear dice on the fate of 
>>>> humanity. The whole world knows that Americans are dangerous, to 
>>>> themselves and to others. But, decent? Since when, and to whom?
>>>> Donald Trump looks and talks like the ugly, racist, bullying 
>>>> American -- and he is exactly that, but he hasn’t killed anybody 
>>>> yet, and his public statements have been of a far more peaceful 
>>>> nature than the woman he beat at the polls. Trump says he wants to 
>>>> cooperate with the Syrians and the Russians to defeat ISIS. Trump 
>>>> also does not make distinctions between the various Islamic 
>>>> jihadist groups in Syria, unlike the Obama administration, which 
>>>> has directly and indirectly armed and funded all of the jihadist 
>>>> groups, and has spent much of the last several months trying to 
>>>> protect the al Nusra Front, the al Qaida affiliate in eastern 
>>>> Aleppo, from Russian bombing.
>>>> “The jihadists are in despair, and the prospects for driving them 
>>>> out of Aleppo look promising.”
>>>> No sooner had the votes been counted, than President Obama ordered 
>>>> U.S. Special Forces to go all-out to kill the leadership of al-Nusra.
>>>> This war has been entirely based on lies, so Obama will probably 
>>>> limit his Kill List to al Qaida leaders, while sparing the rank and 
>>>> file jihadist fighters for future use by the United States. But it 
>>>> is safe to say that, had Hillary Clinton been elected, the most 
>>>> warlike factions in the U.S. military, the CIA, the State 
>>>> Department, and the foreign policy establishment at-large would be 
>>>> setting the stage for full-scale confrontation with Russia and all 
>>>> of Syria’s allies under President Clinton. Instead, the jihadists 
>>>> are in despair, and the prospects for driving them out of Aleppo 
>>>> look promising. Hopefully, the Syrian government and its friends 
>>>> will be on the road to victory before Donald Trump’s presidency is 
>>>> decisively captured by the bipartisan War Party that runs the empire.
>>>> Syrian President Bashar Assad says it’s fine with him if Trump 
>>>> wants to fight the terrorists. But, Assad isn’t sure that Trump can 
>>>> deliver on his campaign pledge. “What about the countervailing 
>>>> forces within the administration, the mainstream media that were 
>>>> against him?” Assad asks. Assad thinks the notion of Trump bucking 
>>>> the War Party is “dubious.” He’s right. Half a million Syrians are 
>>>> dead because most Americans don’t much care who their government 
>>>> kills, as long as they’re not white. But, getting rid of Clinton 
>>>> has slowed the War Party down a bit, and maybe prevented a nuclear 
>>>> war. If you are a decent person, you should be pleased about that.
>>>> For Black Agenda Radio, I’m Glen Ford. On the web, go 
>>>> toBlackAgendaReport.com. 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blackagendareport.com_&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=_iuwmBDMEAIAz6k1h--JVoji6x5mlDiImSbbdIp2zWg&m=81n-Cl30gp6Zj-Goax3wRAq0SF4y1KbypYQ7QLPq1T0&s=71Bvlh0fBGVLdfKYfkNgKilPGZzH_M0xVZGh0R_yjO8&e=>On 
>>>> Nov 16, 2016, at 05:37, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gee -- and you've been telling me Trump was preferable to Clinton. 
>>>> At least he won't start a war with Russia, right?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From:* Karen Aram via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net 
>>>> <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>>
>>>> *To:* peace <peace at lists.chambana.net 
>>>> <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>>; Peace Discuss 
>>>> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:08 AM
>>>> *Subject:* [Peace] Bring on the protesters we really need them now, 
>>>> if these two guys are the choices.......
>>>>
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>>>>     Trump transition points to escalation of US militarism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>           By Bill Van Auken 16 November 2016
>>>>
>>>> Multiple media reports that former New York City Republican Mayor 
>>>> Rudolph Giuliani is president-elect Donald Trump’s top choice for 
>>>> secretary of state have provided further indication of the extreme 
>>>> right-wing and militarily bellicose character of the incoming US 
>>>> administration.
>>>> A senior Trump campaign official told the Associated Press Tuesday 
>>>> that Giuliani was the favorite for the post, while indicating that 
>>>> the equally right-wing and militaristic former US ambassador to the 
>>>> United Nations under the administration of George W. Bush, John 
>>>> Bolton, was also in the running.
>>>> The fact that these two—both adamant supporters of every US war 
>>>> over the past quarter century—are the front-runners for the top 
>>>> foreign policy position in the incoming Republican administration 
>>>> gives the lie to Trump’s pretensions on the campaign trail that he 
>>>> was somehow opposed to recent US military interventions and “nation 
>>>> building.”
>>>> Trump’s phony claims that he had been against the Iraq war were 
>>>> meant to appeal to popular hostility to the endless US military 
>>>> interventions with which his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton 
>>>> was so clearly identified. At the same time, however, he repeatedly 
>>>> advocated a major increase in US military spending and a 
>>>> modernization of Washington’s nuclear arsenal.
>>>> His “America First” rhetoric and promotion of economic nationalism 
>>>> go hand-in-hand with a further escalation of a US campaign of 
>>>> global military aggression that has brought the planet ever closer 
>>>> to a third world war.
>>>> According to a report in the /Wall Street Journal/, the former New 
>>>> York mayor is openly pushing for his own appointment. Giuliani, the 
>>>> newspaper said, “suggested several times that he would be 
>>>> interested in the [secretary of state] post” during remarks 
>>>> delivered Monday to the /Wall Street Journal/ CEO Council in 
>>>> Washington, a gathering billed as an “unparalleled opportunity for 
>>>> business leaders to learn the myriad implications of the biggest 
>>>> change in Washington in many years.”
>>>> In his remarks, Giuliani insisted that the so-called war on ISIS 
>>>> would be the administration’s first priority, making clear that the 
>>>> global “war on terror” that has been used to justify wars 
>>>> throughout the Middle East and Central Asia will continue. The 
>>>> former New York mayor, who has never tired of waving the bloody 
>>>> shirt of 9/11 to promote his own political and personal fortune and 
>>>> to obscure the rampant corruption that characterized his 
>>>> administration, is heavily invested in this policy, though he has 
>>>> played no role in its implementation.
>>>> Asked about Trump’s demands for ripping up the nuclear deal with 
>>>> Iran, Giuliani replied, “You have to set priorities. So if the 
>>>> priority is, let’s eliminate ISIS, maybe you put that off a little 
>>>> bit. And you get rid of ISIS and then get back to that.” In other 
>>>> words, a new US war with Iran remains on the agenda of the incoming 
>>>> administration. During his run for the presidency in 2008, Giuliani 
>>>> said that the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Iran’s 
>>>> nuclear program could not be taken “off the table.”
>>>> And, while Trump has spoken in vague terms of a rapprochement with 
>>>> Russia—and was repeatedly denounced from the right by the Democrats 
>>>> as a puppet of Vladimir Putin—Giuliani sounded a more threatening 
>>>> tone toward Moscow, suggesting military confrontation as a means of 
>>>> shifting relations with Moscow.
>>>> “Russia thinks it’s a military competitor, it really isn’t,” 
>>>> Giuliani said. “It’s our unwillingness under Obama to even threaten 
>>>> the use of our military that makes Russia so powerful.”
>>>> While Giuliani has no foreign policy experience whatsoever, he is a 
>>>> prominent Trump loyalist and a longtime proponent of police state 
>>>> methods of rule. During his tenure as mayor, he was identified with 
>>>> a repressive “stop and frisk” program—later ruled 
>>>> unconstitutional—that turned virtually every minority and working 
>>>> class youth in the city into a suspect and resulted in a series of 
>>>> egregious police murders of innocent victims like Amadou Diallo and 
>>>> Patrick Dorismond that he vehemently defended.
>>>> Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he proposed that mayoral 
>>>> elections in New York be called off and that he be granted a new 
>>>> unelected term as the only man capable of confronting terrorism. 
>>>> More recently, he has suggested that the anti-Trump demonstrations 
>>>> that have swept the country should be met with police repression.
>>>> His apparent principal rival for the secretary of state post, John 
>>>> Bolton, is every bit as reactionary and a pathological supporter of 
>>>> unilateral US military aggression. Barely a year and a half ago, 
>>>> Bolton penned an opinion piece for the /New York Times/ titled “To 
>>>> Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.” His prescription was for intensive 
>>>> bombing followed by “regime change.”
>>>> Bolton rose to prominence in Republican circles after serving as a 
>>>> lawyer in the George W. Bush campaign’s successful operation to 
>>>> steal the 2000 election by halting the vote count in Florida.
>>>> He was an advocate of a US war for regime change in Iraq at least 
>>>> since 1998. In 2002, he was the State Department’s undersecretary 
>>>> for Arms Control and International Security, playing a key role in 
>>>> preparing the war of aggression against Iraq the following year by 
>>>> promoting the lies that Saddam Hussein was developing “weapons of 
>>>> mass destruction” and preparing to hand them over to Al Qaeda.
>>>> Bolton, described by one of his former colleagues at the State 
>>>> Department as “the quintessential kiss up, kick down kind of guy,” 
>>>> was named ambassador to the United Nations in an August 2005 recess 
>>>> appointment by the Bush administration that was meant to serve as a 
>>>> deliberate provocation toward the UN, for which Bolton had 
>>>> repeatedly and publicly declared his contempt.
>>>> Both Giuliani and Bolton—like president-elect Trump—have defended 
>>>> the use of torture by the Pentagon and the CIA at Guantanamo, 
>>>> Bagram Air Base and black sites around the world.
>>>> The discussion of a possible appointment of either Giuliani or 
>>>> Bolton as the face of US foreign policy is every bit as revealing 
>>>> as the naming Sunday of the outright fascist Steve Bannon as 
>>>> Trump’s chief White House strategist. While not indulging in the 
>>>> open politics of white supremacy and anti-Semitism that has 
>>>> characterized Bannon’s stewardship of /Breitbart News/, these are 
>>>> unquestionably among the most reactionary and discredited figures 
>>>> in American politics.
>>>> When an appointment would be announced was far from clear late 
>>>> Tuesday, with reports of the Trump transition team in a state of 
>>>> utter disarray and beset by bitter internecine conflicts. Former 
>>>> Michigan Republican congressman Mike Rogers, who was brought in to 
>>>> advise Trump on national security and was thought to be a possible 
>>>> nominee for CIA director, has been pushed out of the transition 
>>>> process, following the earlier purge of New Jersey Governor Chris 
>>>> Christie, who was hastily replaced by vice president-elect Mike 
>>>> Pence as head of the overall transition operation.
>>>> The /Washington Post/ reported Tuesday that the expulsion of 
>>>> Christie and his allies was carried out in apparent “retaliation 
>>>> for Christie’s role as a US prosecutor in sending [Trump’s 
>>>> son-in-law Jared] Kushner’s father to prison” when he was a federal 
>>>> prosecutor.
>>>> Christie’s ouster effectively placed the transition on hold as far 
>>>> as the Obama administration is concerned as the New Jersey governor 
>>>> was the signatory of a document establishing the framework for the 
>>>> process.
>>>> The chaos and divisions within the Trump camp were also spelled out 
>>>> in an about-face by a former Republican national security official, 
>>>> Eliot Cohen, who had previously led similar figures in denouncing 
>>>> Trump as unfit for the presidency. In an open letter published last 
>>>> week in the /American Interest,/ he argued that a Trump presidency 
>>>> “may be better than we think,” and that checks and balances and 
>>>> bureaucratic inertia would restrain the incoming administration.
>>>> In a tweet early Tuesday, Cohen wrote: “After exchange w Trump 
>>>> transition team, changed my recommendation: stay away. They’re 
>>>> angry, arrogant, screaming ‘you LOST!’ Will be ugly.”
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