[Peace-discuss] The latest Green party collapse

[Karen Aram]

According to Adrian, former Green Party Campaign Manager, just resigned. This action was a solo action by Jill, not the Green Party. 


> On Nov 24, 2016, at 08:57, C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net> wrote:
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> I’m afraid that’s right. In fact, as Jeffrey suggests, the 'split' dates backs at least a decade. 
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> After running as a Green candidate for Congress in 2002, I slowly disaffiliated form the Greens - in part because of comments like one from a state Green leader: 
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> “We just want to be a normal political party, like the Republicans and Democrats.”
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> (The wish is father to the thought: my spell check just changed ‘political' to ‘poetical’ in that last line…)
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> —CGE 
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>> On Nov 24, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> I just heard back from Adrian, he was surprised that the goal was $2m he thought it was only $500,000. He is totally opposed to her doing this, referring to it as BS. I suspect the split within the Party has already begun.
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>>> On Nov 24, 2016, at 06:10, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>>> I’m waiting to hear back on this, from her recent Campaign Manager Adrian,  this does not sound like him at all. 
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>>>> On Nov 24, 2016, at 01:10, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>>>> “Jill Stein Pushes For Election Recount In Key States. The Green Party nominee says she needs $2 million to fund recount requests in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.”
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>>>> [Jeffrey St Clair] What in the world? Jill Stein is trying to raise $2 million for recounts in WI, Michigan & Penn, recounts that presumably aren't about getting a bigger vote total for the Green Party but trying to find "lost" votes for HRC. If HRC isn't willing to stand up for her own voters (assuming there are lost votes, which I tend to doubt) why the hell should the Greens? What's Stein up to? "I didn't cost Hillary the election, I tried to win it for her?” 
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>>>> ...the $2 million would be better spent by the Greens organizing their own party--or providing legal support at Standing Rock or playing the PowerBall or almost anything other than this....
>>>> This smells of Stein's campaign manager David Cobb to me, who in 2004 really wanted the Greens to run a stealth campaign so as not to be tarnished by reelection of Bush. Many of these people really want to be teleported back to the Democratic Party of the 70s and 80s.
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