[Peace-discuss] Worthwhile discussion between Paul Jay & Max Blumenthal with much more than just a firing.

Dianna Visek divisek at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 20 16:53:05 UTC 2017


I can comment on Buchanan.  While I disagree with his positions on many topics, he's got it right on empire.  He even wrote a wonderful book, A Republic, Not an Empire:  Reclaiming America's Destiny, that describes all of our conflicts since our founding and argues that all attempts at empire throughout history have ended in disaster.
Dianna


On Sunday, August 20, 2017, 11:25:21 AM CDT, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

Ron Paul has certainly spoken out against, American empire, on many occasions. I can’t comment on Buchanan.


On Aug 20, 2017, at 09:19, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
If we have alliances with (capitalist) Democrats and Republicans on the basis of some common goals, no reason not to have alliances with others. Progressives who reject such alliances end up supporting the status quo, probably not by accident.
One might argue, with some credibility, that the "left" is in danger of used by the "right," that is, to become a party to intra-capitalist factions regarding trade, etc., among the various sectors--manufacturing, resource extraction, FIRE (finance insurance real estate); pertaining especially to issues of "free trade."
Blumenthal and Jay debate the ins and outs of Bannon's opposition to war with Korea vs. his aggressiveness regarding the Middle East, Blumenthal remarking on the complicated relationships between Trump, Adelson, extreme Zionists, etc. But these are debates that accept the premise of American empire, whereas Paul/Buchanan do not, I don't think.

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