[Peace-discuss] NFN (News from Neptune) yesterday

[Karen Aram]

“Mueller" was my suggestion for a name they couldn’t come up with on NFN, it turns out it was Morell, Michael.

In relation to Erik, “promoting fear and violence." Sorry, if I was being overly simplistic, I thought it was obvious. Standing up for our neighbors is one thing, walking around with loaded guns as vigilantes is another.

By the way Karen, I hope you can be on AOTA to give Carl support, as I’m now taking a “break”.

On Dec 31, 2016, at 18:24, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

I am confused by your overly simplified, everyone sees the obvious problem here,  assumption.

When you wrote "Erik, really, you want white people to get loaded guns to kill other white people, in order to protect people of color?" to Mueller, were you protesting the:
*White people
*The loading of guns.
*Fear.
*The mongering of fear
*The idea that people are afraid of other people.
*The idea that white people should or should not stand up in defense of their non-white neighbors.
*The suggestion of using violence when violence is threatened by someone against someone.
*Or that Trump's speeches are not as powerful as some people claim they are.
*Protecting people of color.
*Using violence against white people.
*That white people are not all alike.
*That some white people actually commit racially motivated hate crimes.




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From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>>
Date: 12/31/16 11:09 (GMT-06:00)
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net<mailto:cge at shout.net>>, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com<mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com>>
Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net<mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>>
Subject: [Peace-discuss] NFN (News from Neptune) yesterday

Good program, I think Carl was referring to “Mueller", close to Miller, in reference to CIA. I don’t have my notes while watching, so not sure.

David: I think you make a good point, in respect to Erik Draitser. I used to listen to his programs faithfully, read his FB postings, to which I always received notification when he posted.

Until after the election, when Erik was then on FB advising everyone, especially white people to get guns, loaded, to protect our “neighbors of color” as a result of the election and Trump. This was to me, worse hysteria than that which we saw being promoted by “move on.org<http://on.org/>” immediately after the election, and it was before the Cabinet appointments which are an indication of what’s to come.

I responded to his email,  “Erik, really, you want all white people to get loaded guns to kill other white people, in order to protect people of color?” Fomenting what I see as hysteria and “civil war” based upon race, religion, or politics, thus being counterproductive. I was astounded that such a bright young man, who seemed to be so knowledgeable in relation to current political events, would suggest anything other than “all people need to unite against the Establishment/Elite based upon issues, given he often referred to “class” and “capitalism" as the problem. I thought perhaps he had been hacked, but you have just confirmed my suspicions, that many on the “left” are questionable.

I no longer receive his FB postings, maybe I’ve been blocked, given how many FB friends he has, I’m surprised anyone took note of what I said. Maybe he’s no longer doing them,  but he evidently is still on Counterpunch radio.
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