[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

Boyle, Francis A fboyle at illinois.edu
Sun Jan 22 16:22:05 UTC 2017


Trump’s  Secretary of War Mad Dog Mattis was responsible for the Massacre at Fallujah, which I pointed out on Counterpunch was a Nuremberg War Crime along the lines of the Nazis—the wanton devastation of a city-- in revenge for them killing our mercenaries. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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To: Estabrook, Carl G <galliher at illinois.edu>
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Subject: Re: Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

I’m sorry Carl, I don’t agree with that title either. It assumes that all in the anti-war movement welcome the Trump administration. Not all of us trust he will do some of that which he promised in respect to “defunding Nato,” “making friends with Russia,” or killing TPP.  Even if he does those three things, his further provocations of China, are every bit as dangerous as those with Russia, it’s a mere tactic to drive a wedge between Russia and China, while chipping away at Iran.

His Cabinet appointments are frightening to say the least in respect to Healthcare, Energy, Education, Housing, etc, etc.

Further expansion of war in the Middle East, and North Africa, as well as expansion of capitalist corporate control is on the agenda no matter which of the two Party’s are in power.

Obama paved the way, for all of which I have just referred, but it’s not over. Our only hope is that “the people” are now awake, and perhaps will focus on that which is most serious to survival.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:44, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu<mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:

My original title was, “Why the anti-war movement welcomes the new administration.”

For more on that theme, see <https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201701191049765550-how-trump-presidency-will-play-out/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sputniknews.com_columnists_201701191049765550-2Dhow-2Dtrump-2Dpresidency-2Dwill-2Dplay-2Dout_&d=DwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=DO2Cdgb5iZtomk8-jICHKdRSL3wyu07R7Ppg2DBO8Lg&s=eOe0hT_RugtbRRm3bb6fk8msEcyDlHTRVj24xwGRAuY&e=>>.

—CGE


On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

An excellent letter, which I posted on FB. I deliberately deleted the title that I assumed the NG created, because it gives the false impression that those of us in the anti-war movement, all support Trump. We don’t, we just didn’t support Hillary. Anyone in the anti-war movement supporting Hillary was supporting more of the same that Obama provided.



On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:16, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

He {Obama} attacked eight countries (two more than George Bush), and conducted what one leading political commentator called "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations." He killed thousands of civilians with drones, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children.
A good letter by Carl today in NG. (Remember NG writes their own titles to letters.) We must now hold Trump’s feet to the fire across the board! I think Carl’s quote comes from Chomsky? In any event the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty fully supported and promoted and held  out for emulation by lawyers and this Campus and our Good Community:
"the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations."

The Illinois Nazis Law Faculty are just a GANG OF SICK PUPPIES!
Fab
Ed Norton Professor of Law
Carl Schmitt College of Law:
“Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”


Francis A. Boyle
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Champaign IL 61820 USA
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217-244-1478 (fax)
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Subject: Guest Commentary: Why anti-war movement welcomes Trump

By C.G. ESTABROOK
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