[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

Mon Jan 23 00:43:14 UTC 2017

There was no massacre at Fallujah.   This is nonsense.  Mattis expected his
troops to be peacekeepers.  They brought soccer balls with them when they
deployed.

I would love to see your "so called" war crime indictment.  Wonder how much
of it is from your fertile Hate America imagination and how much from the
fertile Arab anti-American propaganda organs.  Doubt a single paragraph is
actually based on fact.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> *Trump’s  Secretary of War Mad Dog Mattis was responsible for the Massacre
> at Fallujah, which I pointed out on Counterpunch was a Nuremberg War Crime
> along the lines of the Nazis—the wanton devastation of a city-- in revenge
> for them killing our mercenaries. Fab.*
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> *Francis A. Boyle*
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> *From:* Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* Estabrook, Carl G <galliher at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>; Jay Becker <
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> *Subject:* Re: Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
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> I’m sorry Carl, I don’t agree with that title either. It assumes that all
> in the anti-war movement welcome the Trump administration. Not all of us
> trust he will do some of that which he promised in respect to “defunding
> Nato,” “making friends with Russia,” or killing TPP.  Even if he does those
> three things, his further provocations of China, are every bit as dangerous
> as those with Russia, it’s a mere tactic to drive a wedge between Russia
> and China, while chipping away at Iran.
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> His Cabinet appointments are frightening to say the least in respect to
> Healthcare, Energy, Education, Housing, etc, etc.
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> Further expansion of war in the Middle East, and North Africa, as well as
> expansion of capitalist corporate control is on the agenda no matter which
> of the two Party’s are in power.
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> Obama paved the way, for all of which I have just referred, but it’s not
> over. Our only hope is that “the people” are now awake, and perhaps will
> focus on that which is most serious to survival.
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> On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:44, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
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> My original title was, “Why the anti-war movement welcomes the new
> administration.”
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> For more on that theme, see <https://sputniknews.com/
> columnists/201701191049765550-how-trump-presidency-will-play-out/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sputniknews.com_columnists_201701191049765550-2Dhow-2Dtrump-2Dpresidency-2Dwill-2Dplay-2Dout_&d=DwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=DO2Cdgb5iZtomk8-jICHKdRSL3wyu07R7Ppg2DBO8Lg&s=eOe0hT_RugtbRRm3bb6fk8msEcyDlHTRVj24xwGRAuY&e=>
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> —CGE
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> On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> An excellent letter, which I posted on FB. I deliberately deleted the
> title that I assumed the NG created, because it gives the false impression
> that those of us in the anti-war movement, all support Trump. We don’t, we
> just didn’t support Hillary. Anyone in the anti-war movement supporting
> Hillary was supporting more of the same that Obama provided.
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> On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:16, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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> He {Obama} attacked eight countries (two more than George Bush), and
> conducted what one leading political commentator called "the most extreme
> terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations." He killed
> thousands of civilians with drones, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of
> children.
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> A good letter by Carl today in NG. (Remember NG writes their own titles to
> letters.) We must now hold Trump’s feet to the fire across the board! I
> think Carl’s quote comes from Chomsky? In any event the Illinois Nazis Law
> Faculty fully supported and promoted and held  out for emulation by lawyers
> and this Campus and our Good Community:
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> "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone
> assassinations."
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> The Illinois Nazis Law Faculty are just a GANG OF SICK PUPPIES!
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> Fab
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> Ed Norton Professor of Law
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> Carl Schmitt College of Law:
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> “Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”
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> *Francis A. Boyle*
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> *Law Building*
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> *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.*
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> *Champaign IL 61820 USA*
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> *217-333-7954 <(217)%20333-7954> (phone)*
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> *217-244-1478 <(217)%20244-1478> (fax)*
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> *Posted on:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:00 AM
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> *Subject:* Guest Commentary: Why anti-war movement welcomes Trump
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> *By C.G. ESTABROOK*
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> The European anti-war group "No War No NATO" writes as follows:
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> "Demonstrating in Europe on 21 January, against the newly elected US
> President Donald Trump is tantamount to lending support to the Obama
> administration, which has transformed Europe into NATO's first line of
> attack, nuclear matters inclusive, against Russia.
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