[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

[Boyle, Francis A]

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November 15, 2004
A War Crime in Real Time
Obliterating Fallujah
By FRANCIS A. BOYLE
The obliteration of Fallujah continues apace. Article 6(b) of the 1945 Nuremberg Charter defines a Nuremberg War Crime in relevant part as the ". . . wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages. . ." According to this definitive definition, the Bush Jr. administration's destruction of Fallujah constitutes a war crime for which Nazis were tried and executed. There is nothing surprising about that.
Since the Bush Jr. administration's installation in power by the United States Supreme Court in January of 2001, the peoples of the world have witnessed a government in the United States of America that has demonstrated little if any respect for fundamental considerations of international law, international organizations, and human rights, let alone appreciation of the requirements for maintaining international peace and security. What the world has watched instead is a comprehensive and malicious assault upon the integrity of the international legal order by a group of men and women who are thoroughly Machiavellian in their perception of international relations and in their conduct of both foreign policy and domestic affairs. This is not simply a question of giving or withholding the benefit of the doubt when it comes to complicated matters of foreign affairs and defense policies to a U.S. government charged with the security of both its own citizens and those of its allies in Europe, the Western Hemisphere, and the Pacific. Rather, the Bush Jr. administration's foreign policy constitutes ongoing criminal activity under well-recognized principles of both international law and U.S. domestic law, in particular the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles. So their obliteration of Fallujah was to be expected.
One generation ago the peoples of the world asked themselves: Where were the "good" Germans? Well, there were some good Germans. The Lutheran theologian and pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer was the foremost exemplar of someone who led a life of principled opposition to the Nazi-terror state even unto death.
Today the peoples of the world are likewise asking themselves: Where are the "good" Americans? Well, there are some good Americans. Like three Catholic Nuns in Denver, they are getting arrested and going to jail for protesting against United States weapons of mass destruction (WMD) whose power for human extermination far exceeds even the wildest fantasies of Hitler and the Nazis. Or else for protesting against illegal U.S.. military interventions around the world. Just recently the Nuclear Resister estimated that since the Fall of 2002, there have been more than 9,500 anti-war related arrests in the United States alone. Many more will be coming.
In international legal terms, the Bush Jr. administration itself should now be viewed as constituting an ongoing criminal conspiracy under international criminal law in violation of the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles, due to its formulation and undertaking of aggressive war policies that are legally akin to those perpetrated by the Nazi regime. As a consequence, American citizens possess the basic right under international law and the United States domestic law, including the U.S. Constitution, to engage in acts of non-violent civil resistance in order to prevent, impede, thwart, or terminate ongoing criminal activities perpetrated by U.S. government officials in their conduct of foreign affairs policies and military operations purported to relate to defense and counter-terrorism.
This same right of civil resistance extends pari passu to all citizens of the world community of states. Everyone around the world has both the right and the duty under international law to resist ongoing criminal activities perpetrated by the Bush Jr. administration and its nefarious foreign accomplices such as Blair, Berlusconi, Howard, Koizumi, Kwasniewski, etc. by all non-violent means possible. If it is not so restrained, the Bush Jr. administration could very well precipitate a Third World War.
The time for preventive action is now. Civil resistance is the way to go. People power can overcome power politics. Popular movements have succeeded in toppling tyrannical, dictatorial and authoritarian regimes throughout former Communist countries in Eastern Europe, as well as in Asia, and most recently in Latin America. It is time once again to exercise People Power here in the United States of America: "When in the Course of human Events. . . We hold these Truths to be self-evident. . . . we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and sacred Honor."
Despite the best efforts by the Bush Jr. Leaguers to the contrary, we American Citizens still have our First Amendment Rights: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom to Petition our Government for the Redress of these massive Grievances, Civil Resistance, etc. We are going to have to start vigorously exercising all of our First Amendment Rights right now. We must use them or else, as the saying goes, we will lose them. We must act not only for the good of the Peoples of Southwest Asia, but for our future, that of our children, that of our nation as a democratic society committed to the Rule of Law and the U.S. Constitution. The Nazis had their "homeland" too
Francis A. Boyle, Professor of Law, University of Illinois, is author of Foundations of World Order<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0822323273/counterpunchmaga>, Duke University Press, The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932863337/counterpunchmaga>, and Palestine, Palestinians and International Law<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/093286337X/counterpunchmaga>, by Clarity Press. He can be reached at: FBOYLE at LAW.UIUC.EDU<mailto:FBOYLE at LAW.UIUC.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

There was no massacre at Fallujah.   This is nonsense.  Mattis expected his troops to be peacekeepers.  They brought soccer balls with them when they deployed.

I would love to see your "so called" war crime indictment.  Wonder how much of it is from your fertile Hate America imagination and how much from the fertile Arab anti-American propaganda organs.  Doubt a single paragraph is actually based on fact.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
Trump’s  Secretary of War Mad Dog Mattis was responsible for the Massacre at Fallujah, which I pointed out on Counterpunch was a Nuremberg War Crime along the lines of the Nazis—the wanton devastation of a city-- in revenge for them killing our mercenaries. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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Subject: Re: Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

I’m sorry Carl, I don’t agree with that title either. It assumes that all in the anti-war movement welcome the Trump administration. Not all of us trust he will do some of that which he promised in respect to “defunding Nato,” “making friends with Russia,” or killing TPP.  Even if he does those three things, his further provocations of China, are every bit as dangerous as those with Russia, it’s a mere tactic to drive a wedge between Russia and China, while chipping away at Iran.

His Cabinet appointments are frightening to say the least in respect to Healthcare, Energy, Education, Housing, etc, etc.

Further expansion of war in the Middle East, and North Africa, as well as expansion of capitalist corporate control is on the agenda no matter which of the two Party’s are in power.

Obama paved the way, for all of which I have just referred, but it’s not over. Our only hope is that “the people” are now awake, and perhaps will focus on that which is most serious to survival.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:44, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu<mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:

My original title was, “Why the anti-war movement welcomes the new administration.”

For more on that theme, see <https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201701191049765550-how-trump-presidency-will-play-out/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sputniknews.com_columnists_201701191049765550-2Dhow-2Dtrump-2Dpresidency-2Dwill-2Dplay-2Dout_&d=DwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=DO2Cdgb5iZtomk8-jICHKdRSL3wyu07R7Ppg2DBO8Lg&s=eOe0hT_RugtbRRm3bb6fk8msEcyDlHTRVj24xwGRAuY&e=>>.

—CGE


On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

An excellent letter, which I posted on FB. I deliberately deleted the title that I assumed the NG created, because it gives the false impression that those of us in the anti-war movement, all support Trump. We don’t, we just didn’t support Hillary. Anyone in the anti-war movement supporting Hillary was supporting more of the same that Obama provided.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:16, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

He {Obama} attacked eight countries (two more than George Bush), and conducted what one leading political commentator called "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations." He killed thousands of civilians with drones, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children.
A good letter by Carl today in NG. (Remember NG writes their own titles to letters.) We must now hold Trump’s feet to the fire across the board! I think Carl’s quote comes from Chomsky? In any event the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty fully supported and promoted and held  out for emulation by lawyers and this Campus and our Good Community:
"the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations."

The Illinois Nazis Law Faculty are just a GANG OF SICK PUPPIES!
Fab
Ed Norton Professor of Law
Carl Schmitt College of Law:
“Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”


Francis A. Boyle
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Posted on: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:00 AM
Author: digital.media
Subject: Guest Commentary: Why anti-war movement welcomes Trump

By C.G. ESTABROOK
The European anti-war group "No War No NATO" writes as follows:
"Demonstrating in Europe on 21 January, against the newly elected US President Donald Trump is tantamount to lending support to the Obama administration, which has transformed Europe into NATO's first line of attack, nuclear matters inclusive, against Russia.
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