[Peace-discuss] Let's draft Carl to primary Rodney

Fri Jul 21 15:13:31 UTC 2017

Bob

 I would never support a candidate like Rob Ryerse, for obvious reasons.

The platform of:  “Medicare for All,” “End Mass Incarceration,” and “Stop Fighting Reckless Wars.” as you suggest, is already the platform of the Green Party, so why start a new Party?

Oh, yes thats right. To water down dissent and create the illusion that elections are the only way to achieve progress, putting everything on hold for four years.

I have an idea for how we could do this.

There's an organization called "Brand New Congress" that was started by former Bernie Sanders staffers. They're supporting Republicans as well as Democrats.

https://brandnewcongress.org/

The idea is that they're recruiting candidates across the country to run on a common platform, and they're providing national resources, including staff, to help the candidates.

Here is the platform:

https://brandnewcongress.org/platform

Note that the platform includes "Medicare for All," "End Mass Incarceration," and "Stop Fighting Reckless Wars."

Here's an example of a Republican that they are supporting:

https://brandnewcongress.org/robb-ryerse

https://brandnewcongress.org/Candidates/Robb-Ryerse

Here's the form for nominating candidates:

https://brandnewcongress.org/Nominate

So: right now, this idea costs nothing to pursue. It just requires filling out a form.

So, I propose: anyone who likes this idea, help gather all the information we need to fill out the form and share it here. Then, let's fill out the nomination form. Costs us nothing.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org<mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:
If Carl's going to primary Rodney, he's going to need some help.

I propose that we start collecting pledges of assistance, to encourage Carl to run and to show him he won't be "walking alone."

- Money: I pledge $100. What can you pledge?

- Recruits: it would be very useful to have some politically plausible public helpers, a campaign manager, etc. Ideally these people would have some Republican credentials. Who are some Libertarian-flavored Republicans or Republican-flavored Libertarians around here whom we might recruit to this project?

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org<mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:
On the gender question, you'd be running in the Republican primary, and Republicans care much less about that in general. Look at the Republican Caucus in the House - it's overwhelmingly male.

On the age question, I think people would excuse you if you didn't run all over the district. You'd get a bunch of free media just by being a candidate with which to challenge Rodney on war and peace issues, and civil liberties issues; you wouldn't need to run back and forth to Taylorville. Basically all you have to do is gather the petitions, which as we know is a low bar for a major political party, and file the papers. Then you get free media.

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
I think I suffer in this regard from Statistician’s Disease - 'Broken Down by Sex and Age’:

i.e., the candidate should be a woman, and I’m too old...

—CGE

On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org<mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:

OK, Carl, what do you say? Why don't you primary Rodney? What's the downside?

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
What you say is quite true, Ron (although I detect a note of sarcasm…):

"Barack Obama campaigned for the presidency in 2008 as a peace candidate. He signaled that he would fundamentally change America’s course after the reckless carnage unleashed by the George W. Bush administration. However, by the end of Obama’s presidency, the United States was bombing seven different foreign nations…”
<https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/obamas-awol-anti-war-protest/>

"Clinton lost because war-ravaged communities in PA, WI, and MI saw her as pro-war, study says…”
<http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/clinton-because-communities/>

—CGE

On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Hey, good idea!  We have frequently been told that there are multitudes of peace-loving voters out there — especially Republicans —  who were deceived & betrayed by the vicious, disingenuous warmonger Obama, who endlessly lied to them about  his true intention of waging  imperialistic  wars everywhere in obedience to his masters in the 1%.

They are no doubt yearning for an authentic peace candidate who will promise to quickly shut down all the foreign wars started or enlarged by the neocons & neolibs.

~~ Ron

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