[Peace-discuss] Let's draft Carl to primary Rodney

Fri Jul 21 15:15:31 UTC 2017

 "I would never support a candidate like Rob Ryerse, for obvious reasons."

Why? It's not obvious at all.

Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
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naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Bob
>
>  I would never support a candidate like Rob Ryerse, for obvious reasons.
>
> The platform of:  “Medicare for All,” “End Mass Incarceration,” and “Stop
> Fighting Reckless Wars.” as you suggest, is already the platform of the
> Green Party, so why start a new Party?
>
> Oh, yes thats right. To water down dissent and create the illusion that
> elections are the only way to achieve progress, putting everything on hold
> for four years.
>
>
>
> I have an idea for how we could do this.
>
> There's an organization called "Brand New Congress" that was started by
> former Bernie Sanders staffers. They're supporting Republicans as well as
> Democrats.
>
> https://brandnewcongress.org/
>
> The idea is that they're recruiting candidates across the country to run
> on a common platform, and they're providing national resources, including
> staff, to help the candidates.
>
> Here is the platform:
>
> https://brandnewcongress.org/platform
>
> Note that the platform includes "Medicare for All," "End Mass
> Incarceration," and "Stop Fighting Reckless Wars."
>
> Here's an example of a Republican that they are supporting:
>
> https://brandnewcongress.org/robb-ryerse
>
> https://brandnewcongress.org/Candidates/Robb-Ryerse
>
> Here's the form for nominating candidates:
>
> https://brandnewcongress.org/Nominate
>
> So: right now, this idea costs nothing to pursue. It just requires filling
> out a form.
>
> So, I propose: anyone who likes this idea, help gather all the information
> we need to fill out the form and share it here. Then, let's fill out the
> nomination form. Costs us nothing.
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Robert Naiman <
> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org> wrote:
>
>> If Carl's going to primary Rodney, he's going to need some help.
>>
>> I propose that we start collecting pledges of assistance, to encourage
>> Carl to run and to show him he won't be "walking alone."
>>
>> - Money: I pledge $100. What can you pledge?
>>
>> - Recruits: it would be very useful to have some politically plausible
>> public helpers, a campaign manager, etc. Ideally these people would have
>> some Republican credentials. Who are some Libertarian-flavored Republicans
>> or Republican-flavored Libertarians around here whom we might recruit to
>> this project?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Robert Naiman <
>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On the gender question, you'd be running in the Republican primary, and
>>> Republicans care much less about that in general. Look at the Republican
>>> Caucus in the House - it's overwhelmingly male.
>>>
>>> On the age question, I think people would excuse you if you didn't run
>>> all over the district. You'd get a bunch of free media just by being a
>>> candidate with which to challenge Rodney on war and peace issues, and civil
>>> liberties issues; you wouldn't need to run back and forth to Taylorville.
>>> Basically all you have to do is gather the petitions, which as we know is a
>>> low bar for a major political party, and file the papers. Then you get free
>>> media.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Naiman
>>> Policy Director
>>> Just Foreign Policy
>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>>> (202) 448-2898 x1 <(202)%20448-2898>
>>>
>>> Force Roll Calls on Davidson-Nolan Bars to U.S. Role in Saudi War in
>>> Yemen
>>> https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/force-roll-calls-on-davids
>>> on?r_by=1135580
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
>>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think I suffer in this regard from Statistician’s Disease - 'Broken
>>>> Down by Sex and Age’:
>>>>
>>>> i.e., the candidate should be a woman, and I’m too old...
>>>>
>>>> —CGE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Robert Naiman <
>>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, Carl, what do you say? Why don't you primary Rodney? What's the
>>>> downside?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert Naiman
>>>> Policy Director
>>>> Just Foreign Policy
>>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>>>> (202) 448-2898 x1 <(202)%20448-2898>
>>>>
>>>> Force Roll Calls on Davidson-Nolan Bars to U.S. Role in Saudi War in
>>>> Yemen
>>>> https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/force-roll-calls-on-davids
>>>> on?r_by=1135580
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
>>>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What you say is quite true, Ron (although I detect a note of sarcasm…):
>>>>>
>>>>> "Barack Obama campaigned for the presidency in 2008 as a peace
>>>>> candidate. He signaled that he would fundamentally change America’s course
>>>>> after the reckless carnage unleashed by the George W. Bush
>>>>> administration. However, by the end of Obama’s presidency, the United
>>>>> States was bombing seven different foreign nations…”
>>>>> <https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/obamas-awol-ant
>>>>> i-war-protest/>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Clinton lost because war-ravaged communities in PA, WI, and MI saw
>>>>> her as pro-war, study says…”
>>>>> <http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/clinton-because-communities/>
>>>>>
>>>>> —CGE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss <
>>>>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, good idea!  We have frequently been told that there are
>>>>> multitudes of peace-loving voters out there — especially Republicans —  who
>>>>> were deceived & betrayed by the vicious, disingenuous warmonger Obama, who
>>>>> endlessly lied to them about  his true intention of waging  imperialistic
>>>>>  wars everywhere in obedience to his masters in the 1%.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are no doubt yearning for an authentic peace candidate who will
>>>>> promise to quickly shut down all the foreign wars started or enlarged by
>>>>> the neocons & neolibs.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~ Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>
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