[Peace-discuss] Fwd: NYTimes.com: The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Jun 8 23:15:54 UTC 2017


Ron—

If you’re right, it would seem that a universal basic income at the level of a living wage - in place of “welfare measures” - would go a way to answer the problem.

Of course education, housing, and healthcare should be decommodified - i.e., taken out of the 'free market’ and provided at public expense. 

Those are things people have a right to, not just a right to purchase if they have the money.

The failure of the Democratic party to support these things - in spite of tentative gestures from the Sanders campaign - indicates its irrelevance.

—CGE


> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> A too-plausible diagnosis.  What the data seem to show is that a simple thesis of economic deprivation is (again) wrong.
> What we have seen instead is a symptom of class resentment & defiance, esp. of the lowest quintile (20%) by the next higher quintile (20%—40%, the “working class"), who think the “tax & spend” Democrats are taxing them, the lower middle class,  to buy the votes of the lowest 20% with welfare measures.  ~~ Ron
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> <My dependents.jpeg>
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>> From: r-szoke <emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com <mailto:emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com>>
>> Subject: NYTimes.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__NYTimes.com&d=DwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=yrSDwnyT-HYZWF2AGeCoaps98AxMJxD5Ez9G0M5zmbU&s=a3eS4kdbTl0dZm_M6k2590mkl0ow9ouZbllC-cy-xvw&e=>: The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought
>> Date: June 8, 2017 at 12:25:33 PM CDT
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