[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

[Karen Aram]

??? Exactly, who?

When I refer to the internet, I am referring to “private” blogs or discussion groups on the internet, not open social media. 

Meaning do we open the door to everyone? Do we provide our sign up sheet to everyone who we have discussions with at the Market?

Do we ask someone who is rude, saying he/she supports war and we are unpatriotic not to do the same? 

 Or are we selective in our choice of who we ask if they’d like to sign up, after interesting, positive conversations? 

I suggest its the latter. We don’t go around door knocking. Often we just put people on the “Peace List” that we meant to put on the “Peace Discuss List.”

We may not approve of a speaker but we don’t remove their platform to speak, if they have acquired one. We don’t need to provide one either. 


> On Nov 5, 2017, at 08:05, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
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> “…can’t allow…”?
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> Who gets to do the allowing?  百花齐放，百家争鸣  
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> ('"Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend" is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land.')
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>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Carl
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>> My point is that these discussions on the Peace Discuss List, with so many ad hominids, with people who clearly support war and destruction, and not with sound arguments, but with goals to merely trash everything we say, as trolls, is a deterrent to folks with real interests in the topic of “anti-war” and peace. 
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>> George Orwell likely was not referring to the internet back in the day. 
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>> It is probably why we can’t allow anything other than “announcements” on the Peace List. I don’t like it, but understand it.
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>> PS Misspelling is due to “spell check.”
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>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 06:36, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>>> For sure Carl. And I am very happy to be doing it with you all. Fab.
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>>> Francis A. Boyle
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>>> (personal comments only)
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:31 AM
>>> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
>>> Cc: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
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>>> And the political establishment is desperately using the comic figure of Donald Trump to distract us from the crimes of Obama and Clinton (which Trump continues).
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>>> Exposing and opposing those crimes, past and present, are what people like us, who have the leisure to do so, should be doing - as you are. —CGE
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>>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>>>> Oh. And this is what Roger told  about Mr. Alwaki’s 16 year old son, a US citizen drone murdered to death by KillerKoh/Clinton/Obama et al:
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>>>> "This piece of shit doesn't do you any honor - the kid was killed because he went to where his Dad was recruiting and training Americans to kill Americans –"
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>>>> According to the Intercept Expose on the Obama/Clinton/KillerKoh drone murder campaign, their CIA source told the Intercept that Mr. Alwaki’s child  was deliberately murdered. And now we have killed his daughter. Corruption of Blood. Just like what Kings used to do during the Middle Ages. Kings Obama/Trump. Now prohibited by the United States Constitution. But as President George Bush Jr once said about the Constitution: “It’s just a goddam’ piece of paper!” Ditto for Harvard Law Obama. Ditto for Yale Law Clinton. Ditto for Harvard/Yale Law Killer Koh. Ditto for the Dean and Faculty of the University of Illiniwaks College of Law. fab
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