[Peace-discuss] NYTimes.com: Outlawing War? It Actually Worked

[Brussel, Morton K]

Agreed, Karen. David Swanson has been, frustratingly, promoting the Kellog-Briand pact for a long time to no avail. The powers that be in the U.S. have depended on war and associated actions to achieve their hegemonic goals.

—mkb


On Sep 4, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Ron,

Really?

The US, for whose behavior, we as Americans are responsible, hasn’t abided by International laws or our own laws in years, with just the use of our drones alone. Our destruction of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc. is hardly a sign that “acquisition” of land and resources is no longer an issue due to laws. We know that control of those nations and their resources is and continues to be the goal.

Any, suggestion that “sanctions” are a peaceful means of dealing with issues vs war, is ridiculous, given the thousands of children who died as a result of our sanctions against Iran, and most sanctions other than those imposed on S.Africa, are a “prelude” or “provocation” to war. Which is what the current US government is implementing against Russia, N.K. and China, rather than the use of diplomacy.

This article is clearly an attempt, per usual on the part of main stream media, which includes the NYT’s to vilify Russia with it’s statements in respect to the Crimea. Of course that should come as no surprise given it’s written by Yale Law School Professors, the Law School known for its creation of USG war mongers.

On Sep 3, 2017, at 17:34, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Another perspective:

From: r-szoke <emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com<mailto:emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com>>
Subject: NYTimes.com<http://nytimes.com/>: Outlawing War? It Actually Worked
Date: September 3, 2017



Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu<mailto:r-szoke at illinois.edu>:      [http://i1.nyt.com/images/misc/nytlogo194x27.gif]
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Gray Matter
Outlawing War? It Actually Worked <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6og8d+ofNlzGxrWDcH8fHft&user_id=ee7558d54531b290bd05280f4b7d6eb4&email_type=eta&task_id=1504484964687522&regi_id=0>
By OONA A. HATHAWAY and SCOTT J. SHAPIRO
A 1928 pact brought an end to the right of conquest and changed the way states behave.



Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2xGsept <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6og8d+ofNlzGxrWDcH8fHft&user_id=ee7558d54531b290bd05280f4b7d6eb4&email_type=eta&task_id=1504484964687522&regi_id=0>





[http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkkq/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&user_id=ee7558d54531b290bd05280f4b7d6eb4&email_type=eta&task_id=1504484964687522&regi_id=0]
Curiously, no mention of Israel acquiring the West Bank (from Jordan) or the Golan (from Syria) by wars of conquest.
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