[Peace-discuss] See Ya, John (McCain) by Peter Van Buren

[ewj at pigs.ag]

I really disliked McCain.

He did tell a truly funny joke about Chelsea Clinton and seemed to get away with it 
but I can't say that I ever liked McCain.

I dont have the opinion that being a warmongering hotdog 
and wrecking a few jets makes one a hero.  I didn't like the
way he voted and never considered him to be a Republican
in any real sense.  He could have fit right in with 
Bill and Hillary as far I was concerned.  He was pro-war
not pro-defense and he was just plain mean and contemptible.
A lot of people wanted a mean and contemptible president in 2008.
They shouldn't have been disappointed much.  Although not as
overtly mean Obama was certainly contemptible and if
not really mean, at least dastardly.  

I did consider walking over and doing a Who's Next on McCains parachutists monument
when I was last in Hanoi but I considered it too much trouble even though it was a only a
short walk away and I had a nearly full bladder.

I met some people from Alaska once who said they liked 
Sarah Palin but I never met anyone who said they liked John McCain.


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
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>  Subject: [Peace-discuss] See Ya, John (McCain) by Peter Van Buren
>  Sent: Aug 27 '18 09:08
>  
>  SEE YA, JOHN (MCCAIN) BY PETER VAN BUREN
>  
>  Peter Van Buren Posted onAugust 26, 2018
>  
>  It’ll always be too soon, won’t it?
>  
>  Glorifying McCain as a war hero allows us to imagine away the sins of
>  Vietnam by making ourselves the victim. He encouraged unjust war in
>  Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria and more as a cornerstone of his career.
>  
>  When given the chance, he sold out and took Sarah Palin as his Vice
>  Presidential running mate, enabling a change in the GOP and political
>  discourse we are still paying for and he is responsible.
>  
>  As a victim himself of torture, McCain stood mostly silent when
>  America tortured, finally mouthing some mild public platitudes while
>  allowing the coverup to hide what we did. The American public knows
>  10x as much about McCain’s own torture as we do about what was done
>  by American torturers to other human beings. Honor is not allowing
>  torturers to go unpunished. Duty is not helping a coverup. Country
>  deserves better from someone who knows better.
>  
>  McCain allowed himself/profited from becoming a symbol and a myth. He
>  positioned himself as a maverick and independent while towing the
>  imperialist line for decades. I respect the things he endured as a
>  prisoner. But his is a public life such that one can’t separate the
>  individual out from the larger story at this point. I understand it is
>  catechism to say only nice things when someone passes, but as long as
>  people are going to turn McCain into something he wasn’t it seems
>  useful to speak a little full-spectrum truth alongside that.
>  
>  I’m sorry for his family, but the America he claimed to serve is
>  served better by the truth than another politicized shadow of the
>  truth._McCain with Ambassador Chris Stevens, killed in Benghazi.
>  McCain died with that blood on his hands._
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