[Peace-discuss] [Peace] My plea, related to the Yellow Vest movement in France

John W. jbw292002 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 10 01:38:20 UTC 2018


On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 5:43 PM Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:

I support worker owned and operated industries, or nationalized industries.
> Corporations no.
>

But....but....Don't the corporations and our current government operate
more or less hand in hand, or hand in glove?  What's to guarantee that a
corrupt government will operate an industry in an equitable manner, any
more than the present corporation does?





> On Dec 9, 2018, at 15:12, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I suppose I should add here (not that my opinion matters one iota in the
> grand scheme of things):  I'm not sure that nationalization of corporations
> is necessarily the best idea.  What about worker-owned and -operated
> corporations?  I'd like to see workers have more of a direct say in their
> own wages and working conditions, and in what the corporation does and how
> its profits are shared.
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> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 12:23 PM Karen Aram via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/karen.aram.1#>
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>> This is major, governments of the world are watching in fear, because it
>> could happen to them.
>>
>> A couple months ago, Macron had no idea such a rebellion could take
>> place, he has been doing what most governments including the US tell their
>> people to do, "eat cake," while increasing profits for the rich, while
>> taxing the poor.
>>
>> The people of France understand class and class warfare.
>>
>> Between 70 to 80% of the people support the "yellow vest" movement,
>> because they tried voting, they tried the various Party's, and its gotten
>> them nowhere. They've finally banded together, the working class and poor
>> of both left and right using the power of the people, as they know they
>> have, which we have forgotten.
>>
>> No one knows the outcome, but there is no turning back, a bridge has been
>> crossed and the people of Europe recognize capitalism doesn't work, and
>> governments that oppress the people need to be taken down. It has already
>> spread to Belgium, and fires are igniting in other parts of Europe. Brexit
>> in the UK is just one such example of people wanting change.
>>
>> When GM closed down recently, putting people out of work, after we bailed
>> them out due to the crash of 2008, with no conditions, we should be
>> advocating take overs of GM properties by the workers, nationalization of
>> these corporations rather than just focusing on "he said, she said," and
>> the upcoming elections of 2020.
>>
>> As long as we allow these patriarchal governments, whether one Party or
>> the other, we will continue to massacre vulnerable people around the world,
>> bringing the death and destruction home to reign on the poor.
>>
>> Rise up America because the time is now, if not now, when? We have too
>> little time before its too late to save the planet and life as we know it.
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