[Peace-discuss] FW: From Sputnik, quoting Helen Caldecott

Thu Feb 8 05:00:23 UTC 2018

No evidence presented, as far as I can see.
Also, see list of Nobel Peace prize winners: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/
Caldicott’s name is missing!
It is sometimes hard to tell where Francis Boyle is coming from with questionable assertions. Anti- war people should be responsible and reliable.

—mkb

On Feb 7, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

Nobel Peace Prize winner and global peace activist Helen Caldicott told Sputnik.
Yes well Helen did win the Nobel Peace Prize for her work against the nuclear power industry and radiation. There has been ample documentation already on this list and elsewhere that the nuclear power industry has given enormous sums to the Dems. In any event, WAND is the Brainchild of Helen Caldicott and here the Dems are bringing in a Pimp for the Nuclear Power Industry under the cover of Helen’s  good name and reputation in order to promote nuclear power. Truly perverse and disgusting! But what else do you expect from the Dems? He who pays the Piper calls the tune.

Fab

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: From Sputnik, quoting Helen Caldecott

On the issue here given, she's to be commended, on the dangers of radioactivity—off the wall. As for “Dems” and nuclear power, Boyle ’s claims need evidence.

—mkb

On Feb 7, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Yeah, as I said the Democrats are desecrating the good name of Helen Caldicott by having their  APOLOGIST for the nuclear power industry speak at their conference on Saturday. In fact the Democrats on Saturday will be perverting  the good name and reputation of Helen by using her as a pretext and a cover in order  to promote the nuclear power industry. How much did the nuclear power industry pay the Dems?

Fab

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Subject: [Peace-discuss] From Sputnik, quoting Helen Caldecott

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US political leaders have falsely accused Moscow of threatening NATO member states while the alliance aggressively builds up military forces on Russia’s border, Nobel Peace Prize winner and global peace activist Helen Caldicott told Sputnik.
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — On Thursday, US Secretary of Defense nominee James Mattis told a Senate committee in confirmation hearings that NATO must build capacity in eastern Europe to deter Russia’s alleged aggression. This came a day after Secretary of State nominee Rex Tillerson testified that the United States would defend NATO member states<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sputniknews.com_military_201701111049493692-2Dtillerson-2Dnato-2Drussia_&d=DwMGaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=aCimAhyh5Q_G0iAEOqwu8Q&m=plfEPz1I-ZNL0eauAVOjKq-EJzH4N_pwlqrdkxax5hw&s=Q0hYgKO5-EPSokJ11St-D7ncnZi4fRSTIQMR6yk-t2U&e=> if Russia invaded.

"There is little or no evidence that Russia is being aggressive towards the NATO countries," Caldicott, co-winner of the 1985 Nobel Peace Prize, told Sputnik. “That is a lie that the United States insists on maintaining."
Caldicott pointed out, however, that it was the United States and NATO, not Russia, that was building up its armed forces to unprecedented levels in central and eastern Europe and exacerbating tensions in the region.

"The severely provocative buildup of military forces, ABM [anti-ballistic missile] systems and equipment on the Russian border is at the least unnecessary and at the most could lead to a nuclear war with Russia," Caldicott warned.
Far from threatening nuclear war, the Russian government and media were warning their people about the dangers of the NATO military buildup, Caldicott claimed.

"Indeed, the Russian press and leading politicians in the Duma are now postulating that this could well be a future reality, and they are encouraging the Russian population to practice drills to shelter themselves from nuclear war," she said.
The American public and US policymakers also need to take the threat of nuclear war and the nightmarish consequences that would flow from it far more seriously, Caldicott explained.
In the event of any thermonuclear conflict breaking out between Russia and the United States and NATO "we are all doomed to die a dreadful death of vaporization, severe burns, acute radiation sickness, or freezing and starving to death in the nuclear winter that will ensue," Caldicott admonished.
Although US Vice President Joe Biden praised the record of outgoing President Barack Obama on reducing the threat of nuclear war during his eight years in office, Caldicott said Obama’s anti-Russian policies had made the danger far worse.

"What on earth Obama, the once-peace-maker, and [US Secretary of Defense] Ashton Carter think they are doing, God only knows unless they are obeying the dictates of their military industrial masters, who need war or the risk of such to survive economically," Caldicott added.
Caldicott expressed the hope that President-elect Donald Trump would reverse the US force build-up in Eastern Europe after he took office on January 20.

"Once Trump is inaugurated one hopes that his close relationship with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin will lead to rapid withdrawal of these forces and a refashioning of the relationship between Russia and the United States which may ensure our survival," she said.
Caldicott is the author of many books, including "The New Nuclear Danger: George W. Bush’s Military Industrial Complex" and "War in Heaven: The Arms Race in Outer Space."
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