[Peace-discuss] FW: Trump versus NATO is a false narrative.

[Estabrook, Carl G]

Throughout the capitalist world, it's no longer a matter of Left versus Right, but of popular opposition to corporate globalism - neoliberalism and neoconservatism.


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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Trump versus NATO is a false narrative.

Yes Carl, I realize that.

After I wrote my reply, I thought maybe Wayne misunderstood what I meant in regards to “ the sound familiar “ statement I made. I meant in regards to other governments like the UK , France and the U.S. who have done actions opposed by a large percentage of their citizens, like the German government did in recent years.

David J.

From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com]
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I think it’s a wry joke on ‘Lebensraum.’


On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:46 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:




Excuse me ?

What is that supposed to mean Wayne ?
I am talking about the realities of 2018, NOT the history of the 1930’s / 1940’s.

David J.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Trump versus NATO is a false narrative.

not to worry.
germans just need room to live.





On 2018-07-14 20:26 , David Johnson via Peace-discuss<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Wrote:


German troops are also in Turkey on the Syrian border.
The stationing of German troops in war zones outside of Germany is a violation of the post war constitution and is opposed by the vast majority of the German public, but the neo-liberal government did it anyway.
Sound familiar ?

David J.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Trump versus NATO is a false narrative…

But Nato troops (Germans) are aiding US killing in Afghanistan - myrmidons for the empire...
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Insightful article about Trump and NATO:

https://www.salon.com/2018/07/11/trump-versus-nato-not-so-fast_partner/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.salon.com_2018_07_11_trump-2Dversus-2Dnato-2Dnot-2Dso-2Dfast-5Fpartner_&d=DwMGaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=4p_1umaGy6GSn3GnAtc6qB-u5jRD_xNUZTMjXBfCFOY&m=QzchHA6_7I3wNGjysOEAducFW20KG2hixzsJZEugoLA&s=rBw6yCcqlO4QMPwsd8o9TXl8JpCyQjr9abb-hyDXpXE&e=>

A response to the assumed threats is that NATO-Trump apologists cite:  No one is attacking, or is a threat to the NATO countries, but some states may forestall, or resist, the hegemony, economic, political, and military, that the U.S. demands.

—mkb






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