[Peace-discuss] Two important links

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Sun Mar 4 15:48:26 UTC 2018


I can’t find any reviews of Cohn’s book, which is strange (and it is published by Routledge, which doesn’t inspire great confidence). 

And of course you’re right about the ‘pivot to Asia.’ (Remember who was Secretary of State as the S. China Sea stuff grew up: the war party is on the case…):

<https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/18/why-hillary-clinton-is-a-bigger-concern-for-china-than-donald-trump/ <https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/18/why-hillary-clinton-is-a-bigger-concern-for-china-than-donald-trump/>>

It’s a Halford Mackinder (1861-1947) delight...

—CGE

 
> On Mar 4, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Carl
> 
> I don’t disagree. Cohn’s use of a couple “words” that put a negative slant on things, does give me pause in relation to being overly positive in relation to him, but that being said, I didn’t hear anything that caused concern. Perhaps its what I didn’t hear, but his focus was on "social economics.”
> 
> I am usually overly positive in relation to China myself, given the negativity of most US “experts” and the fear being promoted by mainstream media, which I see as the US goals of “hegemony and imperialism.” However, if one simply looks at the future of China, from either a Chinese or a Marxist perspective, there is cause for concern, though certainly not in the near future. 
> 
> Again, they’re not imperialistic, and their build up of their military is defensive in the face of US provocations with the Obama Administration’s “pivot to Asia,” US military bases and occupation of the South China Sea, not to mention our provocations and actions around the world in respect to regime change of those leaders that are not disposed to the US, and now Trumps threats of “tariff wars”. 
> 
> Then there is the BRI which the US is planning to “disrupt?” with our usual interventions and militarism, 
> 
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>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 07:11, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com <mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I’m a bit skeptical of Cohn, from the RealNews interview.
>> 
>> It’s topic we should take up on Neptune. —CGE
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>>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>>> David, the discussion related to China’s rise to a Capitalist Superpower is definitely worth a listen. Prof. Cohn  presents the essence of their rise very well, without the usual western negativism. 
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>>> It remains to be seen what the future holds, in respect to uncontrollable capitalism, with imperialism being the late stage of capitalism, consuming us all.  However, the Chinese are not imperialistic, as is the West, so one can hope.  
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>>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 08:17, David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>>>> Fascinating discussion about Gene Sharp, 2nd program down.
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>>>> http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html#S180222 <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html#S180222>
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>>>> Discussion of Chinese adoption of neoclassical economic ideas:
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>>>> How Did Communist China Become a Capitalist Superpower? <http://therealnews.com/t2/story:21218:How-Did-Communist-China-Become-a-Capitalist-Superpower%3F>
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>>>> How Did Communist China Become a Capitalist Superpower?
>>>> The Real News Network
>>>> In his new book, "Competing Economic Paradigms in China," Steve Cohn examines how China's economic policy went f...
>>>>  <http://therealnews.com/t2/story:21218:How-Did-Communist-China-Become-a-Capitalist-Superpower%3F>
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