[Peace-discuss] 'Blood and soil': Protesters chant Nazi slogan in Charlottesville

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 14 14:09:01 UTC 2018


 Then I was told wrong, or misunderstood, my Jewish friends in the seventies, when I was outraged over anti-semitic statements made by some people, and wanted to do “something” to prevent it. They referred to that which took place in Skokie, sometime in the late sixties? They supported “freedom of speech, and assembly” given the history of the German Holocaust, and the experiences of their “parents.”

I agree with speaking out against fascism, yes, but not countering fascists physically in any form, which I believe is their goal, to provoke the left.

However, I also don’t believe we, by “we” I refer to individuals, groups, organizations, universities, do not need to give fascists, or racists, a “platform, soapbox, stage or megaphone” to speak.

We simply speak out against them based upon the issues they support, but never physically prevent them from speaking. There is a major difference that needs to be clarified and understood.

When we use the term “resistance” we always need to define, just what we mean by that.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 06:25, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

…to do what the Jewish people in Skokie, Illinois did many years ago. Ignore them…
With all due respect to you,  I was living in Boston at the time, and I stand subject to correction: But I was told  by someone who was there that despite their victory in court the Nazis never physically  marched in Skokie, home to so many Holocaust Survivors—the Nazis chickened out because of the Jewish Resistance in Skokie. If Carl does not believe Trump is a Fascist, that is his problem. I will  stand against Trump Fascism wherever and whenever they rear their ugly head. Just like the two of us did before this Trump College of Law against the Trump Department of Injustice Henchman.
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] 'Blood and soil': Protesters chant Nazi slogan in Charlottesville

While there is no doubt there is a rise in right wing nationalism in the US as well as elsewhere in the world, given the economy. I think its best not to focus too much on these “activities”, given they are probably meant to provoke a reaction.

Those going out and countering them, are contributing to the attention these people are seeking. This is exactly what the USG wants, to have Americans fighting among themselves, right versus left.

A distraction to keep attention off of what the government is doing globally. More than likely this is fomented by agent provocateurs for that purpose.

Germany had a history of just this, which is what is terrifying, but when Communists confronted the nationalists with physical action, the Communists were were defeated.

Thus I urge those on the left, to do what the Jewish people in Skokie, Illinois did many years ago. Ignore them.


On Mar 14, 2018, at 05:22, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Check out this story on CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-rally/index.html
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