[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tariq Ali speaks at UIUC this Thursday

[C G Estabrook]

Thank you. What then is to be done?

"The revolution in Russia was a revolution against the 'communist manifesto’” is true (and pure Chomsky). 

Ali has recently published the following:
"The Dilemmas of Lenin: Terrorism, War, Empire, Love, Revolution” (2017); and
"The Communist Manifesto / The April Theses” by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels (2016)

But I would argue 

[1] the US won in Vietnam - not that it achieved its maximum war aims, but it prevented “the threat of a good example” - independent economic development in Asia - which is what the war was about; and 

[2] 'The Sixties’ and the 'crisis of democracy’ (viz.: there was too much democracy coming by 1970) produced the conscious, calculated counter-attack by US business: neoliberalism. 
The result has been 40 years of increased and accelerating inequality (whicih incidentally gave us Trump) - and the rise (not of 'the Right’) of populism (Sanders, Trump, Brexit, Le Pen, M5S, et al.).

—CGE


> On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:05 PM, kmedina67 via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Some points made by Tariq Ali, as I remember them -Karen Medina:
> * 1968, end of the old style of revolutions. 
> * two great wins:
> 1) Vietnamese people won against US.
> 2) anti- war movement wins. A win that keeps the US from openly committing war until the 1990s. Anti-war Veterans, demonstrated at the Pentagon, dating that Vietnam would win and the US veterans were supporting the Vietnamese win. 
> --
> Portugal as the single best experiment in socialism, and this is because of a refusal to accept dictatorship. All other attempts accepted dictatorship, a proletariat dictatorship is a dictatorship. 
> --
>  Side note: Iraq, was the arab country with the most women educated. 
> Iran was second. Syria too, women educated. 
> --
> Imperialism. 
> The United states needs to change. The west coast was the tech revolution. Still leader. But imperialism and forcing others to go along with the US is not going to last.
> --
> England, 
> Had an open invitation for people to join the right wing party, got a leftist and had to give him air time.
> 
> [There was a lot more, but i was not taking notes. Only what I can remember after the talk].
> -----
> In response to Ken Salo's question:
> Ali totally dismissed Marx as laying out a clear alternative to capitalism. Marx is great at pointing out flaws of capitalism. Marx is great at political analysis. But not a prediction of the future, and nor explicating the solution. / The revolution in Russia was a revolution against the " communist manifesto".
> 
> 
> 
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> From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: 3/25/18 20:28 (GMT-06:00)
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> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tariq Ali speaks at UIUC this Thursday
> 
> THIS THURSDAY - NOT TO BE MISSED
> =============================
> Tariq Ali - "The Broken Ladder: 
> The Global Left Fifty Years After 1968"
> 
> March 29, 7:30pm
> 210 Levis Faculty Center
> 
> At the end of the Cold War, the notion of revolution seemed to have been placed among the relics of history. Francis Fukuyama’s “end of history” and Samuel Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations” emerged as bold, alternative frameworks to imagine the course of history after the age of political revolutions had come to an end. Then, the so called Arab Springs and the re-emergence of radical narratives of transformation, from Ukraine to Venezuela, have forced intellectuals and politicians to reconsider the actuality and the meaning of revolutions in the age of globalization.
> 
> Also,========================
> Joint Area Centers Symposium (JACS) 
> "Revolutions: Past and Futures of Radical Transformations"
> 
> March 30, 9:30am-6:30pm
> Levis Faculty Center, Music Room
> 
> The symposium will be articulated around 4 themes: 1) religion and revolution, 2) anti-colonialism, 3) violence and transformation, and 4) gender, race, minorities and revolution. The goal of the symposium is to bring experts from different disciplines and different geographical areas to articulate the productiveness or the anachronism of the concept of revolution in multiple cultural contexts. Scholars from and experts on China, India, Latin America, Europe and Africa will provide a truly transnational perspective to the symposium.
> 
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