[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Incident during demo this afternoon

[David Johnson]

Indeed David,

 

Your reaction was totally understandable under the stressful circumstances that occurred.

 

David J.

 

From: David Green [mailto:davidgreen50 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:20 PM
To: David Johnson
Cc: C G Estabrook; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Incident during demo this afternoon

 

Thanks David; it's hard to be prepared to be rational when a situation gets out of control. It would have been easy for me to follow them at a safe distance; but the 911 officer I had on the phone was adamant, and I "followed orders." And of course situations like that create paradoxes in terms of relying on the police.

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 11:01 AM David Johnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

You should have followed them anyway at a " safe " distance and got their license plate number, as well as - make, color and model of their car.  And if possible, cell phone footage of the people and their vehicle, and people from AWARE who were there prepared to be witnesses.
The cop intentionally gave you the wrong advise because now they can say that they don't know who to go after.
Don't think the cops are unbiased. We learned that isn't the case back in 2003 at the demos  on North Prospect when the cops refused to do anything about the manager of the Tire store physically assaulting 82 year old Bob Wahlfeld.
Live and learn.
And I understand, if this has never happened to you before, one is not certain about what should be done. Not to mention the shock and disbelief of the incident itself.

David J.

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From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:17 AM
To: David Green
Cc: Peace Discuss; peace
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Incident during demo this afternoon

And we think that our demonstrations have no effect…

Sorry you had to put up with this, David, but it’s certainly worthwhile. Thanks.


> On Nov 3, 2018, at 5:02 PM, David Green via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> At the demonstration this afternoon I picked a sign that said "The military does not protect my "freedom."
> 
> Sometime after 20:30, A middle aged woman and man crossed Neil to the southeast corner of Neil and Main where I was standing. She walked up to me and firmly shoved the sign, knocking me slightly backwards causing me to drop the sign.
> 
> I accused her of assault, and while she and and the man tried to debate the issue with me, I called 911. The fellow implied that I was wimpish for caring about being shoved by a woman. They stood there while I asked the police to send a squad car over. While on the phone, I followed them down Main Street going east, and watched them turn into the PNC parking lot. I told the 911 officer that I was following them, and he told me not to. I obeyed his orders (I regret doing so).
> 
> I went back to the corner and waited for a police officer, which took several minutes. An officer came and took my account of the incident and descriptions of them. He also of course took my personal info, including even my height and weight.
> 
> He proceeded to drive around for a while and returned to report that he had not sighted them. No further action was advised or promised by him.
> 
> David Green
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