[Peace-discuss] Anyone want this book?

Tue Nov 27 19:43:34 UTC 2018

For the record, I own a Ford. I bought a Ford because I wanted to have a
union-made, American car, that was also a plug-in hybrid, that I could plug
into an outlet in the garage, so I could use electricity instead of
gasoline to drive around town.

I can drive my Ford all over Champaign-Urbana without using one drop of
gasoline fueling the Saudi regime's genocide in Yemen.

We have a lot of evil to oppose. In general, it doesn't help us to
hyper-focus on opposing one evil at the expense of opposing all the others.

===

Robert Reuel Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
(202) 448-2898 x1

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:58 AM John W. via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:16 AM kmedina67 <kmedina67 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Brett Kaplan at the university might be interested in the Henry Ford
>> books. She does research and teaching related to community memory
>> specifically around the holocaust and anti-semitism.
>>
>
> Well, Karen, if you know her, ask her if she wants it.  Or forward her my
> e-mail.
>
>
>
>> I wonder how the set ended up outside the cancer treatment center. That
>> just makes me sick.
>>
>
> Kinda ironic, huh?  And that's more or less what I thought.  I took the
> book to get it out of general circulation.  Not that your average cancer
> patient would want to wade through it.
>
>
>
>> John, thanks.
>> I value you very much.
>>
>
> Thank you, Karen.
>
>
>
>> --
>> In the early 20 th century, there was a  library cataloging
>> classification called "The Jewish problem", if i remember correctly. It was
>> under social issues and social problems.
>>
>> - Karen Medina
>> "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great" - Mark
>> Twain
>>
>
> It's the American Dream!
>
>
>
>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Date: 11/27/18 06:29 (GMT-06:00)
>> To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Peace-discuss List <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Anyone want this book?
>>
>>
>> Are there any markings in the books that indicate their ownership by
>> someone who lived in Champaign County?
>>
>> My wife directs the Champaign County Historical Archive which is housed
>> at the Urbana Free Library. She might be interested if we can document the
>> ownership of the books by someone who lived in Champaign County. There's
>> stuff in the archives about the Klan in Champaign County, showing how
>> "upstanding members" of Champaign County society were members. There's
>> stuff in the archives about sundown towns in Champaign County, towns where
>> black people were not welcome under threat after sundown.
>>
>> So maybe they'd be interested in a historical record of how someone in
>> Champaign County owned and was perhaps influenced by *The International
>> Jew, *which was a collection of Ford's antisemitic articles from *The
>> Dearborn Independent, *and which was cited by leading Nazis, including
>> Hitler himself, as a significant inspiration to them, including at the
>> Nuremberg trials.
>>
>> Ford was a hugely influential character in American history; it might be
>> useful to try to understand him better.
>>
>> Ford was a passionate anti-Semite and fiercely anti-union, even compared
>> to other industrialists at the time; Ford was the last automaker to sign a
>> contract with the UAW, and Ford did everything he could to sabotage the
>> negotiations, even threatening to break up the company rather than accept a
>> UAW contract; reportedly he relented after his wife threatened to divorce
>> him if he broke up the company.
>>
>> On the other hand, Ford was genuinely concerned about the well-being of
>> workers, not only in his own company, but in the economy as a whole; he
>> reduced work hours and increased wages compared to other employers, partly
>> because he believed this would increase productivity, partly because he
>> believed that workers should have more leisure so they could buy more
>> stuff. The idea of the Model T was to build a car that workers could afford
>> to buy, so that owning and driving a car wouldn't be a luxury exclusive to
>> the super-rich. Ford hired black workers, more than others at the time. And
>> Ford was a pacifist. He believed that war was substantially caused by war
>> profiteers who sought to get rich from war production [we don't need to
>> look beyond the U.S. role in the Saudi war in Yemen to see how right he was
>> about that.] He also believed that war could be substantially prevented by
>> ensuring widespread prosperity, an idea that is now commonplace.
>>
>> I think we're better off overall acknowledging that all these ideas
>> existed in the same person and had huge influence for both good and evil;
>> and how the good ideas Ford had - and the fact that they were too rare at
>> the time - helped propel and give currency to the evil ideas. The parallels
>> to Trump are obvious. Many liberals are horrified by the currency of Trump
>> - as they should be - without taking responsibility for how the failures of
>> American liberalism helped give rise to Trump, by creating a vacuum which
>> Trump could fill. If we want Trumpism to fail, we have to fill the vacuum
>> with something else that appeals to some of the people who were seduced by
>> Trump, not simply denounce Trump.
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Robert Reuel Naiman
>> Policy Director
>> Just Foreign Policy
>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>> (202) 448-2898 x1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:52 AM John W. via Peace-discuss <
>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Before I throw it in the trash, it occurred to me to wonder if any of
>>> you ultra-AWARE folks might want this book for your historical archives.  I
>>> found it among the free books on the bookshelf outside the Cancer Center at
>>> Carle.  I don't ordinarily throw books away, but I make an exception for
>>> books like this one:
>>>
>>> "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem"  The Complete 4
>>> Volumes by Henry Ford.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you want it.
>>>
>>> John Wason
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