[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Joe Bauers letter in today's NG

John W. jbw292002 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 4 20:58:41 UTC 2019


Right now I'm reading "Fear" by Robert Woodward.  It's about the tRump
administration, but it really sheds light on how ALL American
administrations have operated during my entire lifetime, at least.  Some
"crisis" looms somewhere in the world - North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, you
name it.  All of our elected officials, all of our thousands of
"intelligence" experts, immediately begin to discuss and compute and
strategize how to counter the perceived threat.  Do we bomb the entire
country, or just selectively bomb a few key sites, or try to take out the
leader of the country ("leadership bombing", it's called), or what? NO ONE,
and I repeat NOT A SOUL, EVER questions the basic premises behind our
entire foreign policy. No one ever says, "Hey, I know!  Why don't we just
bring all the troops home from everywhere?  We can keep monitoring the
world situation, of course, with our satellites and nuclear subs and spies
and so forth, but why don't we just wait until someone actually attacks our
shores before making war in all of these different countries?"

And no one ever will, until America is humbled and brought to the level of,
say, England after World War II or after its own ultimately failed attempts
at global empire.  When I read about our absurd "war" in Afghanistan, I
think, "This is just exactly like Viet Nam.  They learned absolutely
NOTHING from Viet Nam."

And so it goes.....


On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:00 PM C G Estabrook via Peace <
peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

Write your congressional representatives and demand US troops (and weapons)
> be removed from Afghanistan:
>
> ~ Senator Dick Durbin: <https://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact/email>
> ~ Sen. Tammy Duckworth: <
> https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/content/contact-senator>
> ~ Representative Rodney Davis: <https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/>
>
> Trump’s continuation of Obama’s war-making constitutes “high crimes and
> misdemeanors” for which he should be impeached. Nothing else.
>
> The political establishment continues to threaten impeachment (on other
> grounds) precisely to see that Trump doesn’t abandon Obama’s war-making (as
> Trump threatened to do in the campaign).
>
> War and war provocations are the bedrock of the political establishment’s
> foreign policy. Trump is the first major party presidential candidate in 40
> years to come into office as a critic of neoliberal and neoconservative
> policies ( = more war and more inequality). The establishment has worked
> assiduously (and largely successfully) to see that he maintains those
> policies. But the threat remains.
>
> —CGE
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 2019, at 1:13 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >
> > If you have teenagers romping around your house, most of them have never
> known a day when the United States was not at war in Afghanistan. Think
> about that.
> > This war was allegedly waged in response to the 9/11 attacks of 2001,
> even though 14 of the 19 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. The initial
> target of that effort, Osama bin Laden, is long since dead.
> > Recently, I read that 400 Illinois National Guard troops are being
> deployed to Afghanistan. This war has already consumed the lives of more
> than 2,300 U.S. service personnel and more than 1,700 U.S. contractors. It
> has resulted in more than 20,000 U.S. troop injuries and has cost over a
> trillion dollars.
> > Hundreds of thousands of Afghan citizens have been killed, wounded or
> displaced. Their country is in rubble.
> > Meanwhile, should a natural disaster occur here, Illinois National Guard
> service people will be depleted by their numbers sent to Afghanistan and
> other countries.
> > We have normalized American wars of aggression around the world, despite
> polls that show that most Americans are sick of it. Yet the political class
> continues them, feeding at the trough of the war profiteers whom they serve.
> > And so we are still in Afghanistan, “where empires go to die.” From my
> point of view, we ought to hold to account all public figures who have been
> a party to this abomination, from Congress to the White House.
> > JOSEPH BAUERS Champaign
> > JOSEPH BAUERS Champaign
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