[Peace-discuss] Fwd: WIRED: How Russian Trolls Used Meme Warfare to Divide America

Wed Jan 2 15:21:08 UTC 2019

Well said Bob !

Here is some background on “ WIRED “ online publication –

Owned by Condé Nast <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast_Publications> , it is headquartered in San Francisco, California <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco,_California> , and has been in publication since March/April 1993.

Condé Nast Inc. is an American mass media <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media>  company founded in 1909 by Condé Montrose Nast <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Montrose_Nast> , based at One World Trade Center <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center>  and owned by Advance Publications <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications> .[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast#cite_note-1>   The company attracts more than 164 million consumers across its 19 brands and media: Allure <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allure_(magazine)> , Architectural Digest <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_Digest> , Ars Technica <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars_Technica> , Backchannel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backchannel_(blog)> , Bon Appétit <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_App%C3%A9tit> , Brides <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brides_(magazine)> , Condé Nast Traveler <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast_Traveler> , Epicurious <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurious> , Glamour <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamour_(magazine)> , Golf Digest <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_Digest> , GQ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQ> , Pitchfork <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork_(website)> , Self <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_(magazine)> , Teen Vogue <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Vogue> , The New Yorker <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Yorker> , Vanity Fair <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazine)> , Vogue <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogue_(magazine)> , W <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W_(magazine)>  and Wired <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)> .  Robert A. Sauerberg Jr. is Condé Nast's current chief executive officer and president. US Vogue <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogue_(magazine)>  editor-in-chief Anna Wintour <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Wintour>  serves as the current artistic director of Condé Nast. The company launched Condé Nast Entertainment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast_Entertainment>  in 2011 to develop film, television and digital video programming.

Hence “ WIRED “ magazine is owned by a huge corporate media conglomerate.

WikiLeaks affair

Wired was criticized[32] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)#cite_note-32> [33] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)#cite_note-33>  for its handling of the Adrian Lamo <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo> /Chelsea Manning <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning>  logs. Wired contributor Kevin Poulsen <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Poulsen>  used Lamo to obtain transcripts of the communications between Lamo and Manning that led to Manning's arrest over the "WikiLeaks <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks> " in 2010. Poulsen released approximately one third of the logs, but he and Wired editor-in-chief Evan Hansen refused to release more on grounds of privacy. The issue became a subject of controversy,[34] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)#cite_note-34>  when Poulsen and Hansen attacked Wired critic Glenn Greenwald <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald> .[35] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)#cite_note-35>  

The Guardian 

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange slams Wired magazine on Twitter 

Editor-in-chief of controversial whistleblowing website says US technology magazine 'has an agenda and is not to be trusted' 

Josh Halliday <https://www.theguardian.com/profile/josh-halliday> 

Tue 19 Oct 2010 06.23 EDT First published on Tue 19 Oct 2010 06.23 EDT 

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Photograph: Andrew Winning/Reuters 

The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange <https://www.theguardian.com/media/julian-assange> , has launched a verbal broadside against US technology magazine Wired, claiming the publication "has [an] agenda, doesn't check facts and is not to be trusted".

Assange, the editor-in-chief of the controversial whistleblowing website, also claimed the Condé Nast title is a "known opponent and spreader of all sorts of minsinformation about WikiLeaks", pointing to what he claimed were false reports in the magazine that the site was due to release as many as 500,000 classified US documents from the Iraq war online on Monday.

Kevin Poulsen, a senior editor at Wired, is "responsible for a tremendous amount of other completely false information [about] WikiLeaks", Assange alleged on Twitter <http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6hqu1n> .

David J.

From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 11:32 PM
To: Szoke, Ron
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: WIRED: How Russian Trolls Used Meme Warfare to Divide America

"The researchers can’t say whether any of this propaganda actually influenced the election."

That's the core issue, isn't it?

If some people were messing around but had no significant impact, why should there be such an obsession about this?

Hillary's loss is easy to explain without reference to a foreign conspiracy. 

The amount of money "the Russians" apparently spent was microscopic compared to what Hillary and Trump spent.

The story that this determined the outcome of the election is wildly implausible.

It's certainly reasonable to try to make reasonable efforts to stop foreigners from messing around in our elections. 

But this is not why Hillary lost, and it's not obvious why we should be obsessed with Russian interference as opposed to any other form of interference. 

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Robert Reuel Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org

(202) 448-2898 x1

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:07 AM Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

From: "Szoke, Ron" <r-szoke at illinois.edu>

Subject: WIRED: How Russian Trolls Used Meme Warfare to Divide America

Date: January 1, 2019

WIRED: "How Russian Trolls Used Meme Warfare to Divide America"

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/?mbid=email_onsiteshare

NOTE: According our local pundits & most authoritative resident experts on these matters, nothing like this ever happened, & this is all FAKE NEWS invented by warmongering neoliberal elements in the Deep State & American Political Elite (APE).  

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