[Peace-discuss] Fwd: debates

Tue Jul 9 02:02:32 UTC 2019

Perhaps some will be interested in this discussion, even those dubious about the value of the “debates”. I think it would be informative to expose candidates views on foreign policy, and especially, as you can see from the discussion below, how Tulsi enters into the discussion.

—mkb

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From: David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com<mailto:davidcnswanson at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: debates
Date: July 8, 2019 at 8:44:23 PM CDT
To: Mark Stansbery <walk at igc.org<mailto:walk at igc.org>>
Cc: medea benjamin <medea.benjamin at gmail.com<mailto:medea.benjamin at gmail.com>>, Gar Smith <gar.smith at earthlink.net<mailto:gar.smith at earthlink.net>>, "<wbw-discussion at googlegroups.com<mailto:wbw-discussion at googlegroups.com>>" <wbw-discussion at googlegroups.com<mailto:wbw-discussion at googlegroups.com>>, "Brussel,Morton K" <brussel at illinois.edu<mailto:brussel at illinois.edu>>, Frank Lockwood <lockwoodnow at gmail.com<mailto:lockwoodnow at gmail.com>>, Sally McMillan <marugg51 at gmail.com<mailto:marugg51 at gmail.com>>

we gave him a petition for a climate debate
it alone didn't change anything but may have helped

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:43 PM Mark Stansbery <walk at igc.org<mailto:walk at igc.org>> wrote:
Who has an "in" with Tom Perez, DNC chair, from Maryland?

I am not a registered Democrat, so the donkeys will run who they want, true!??!

Peace, Mark D. Stansbery
Columbus, Ohio

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:40 PM medea benjamin <medea.benjamin at gmail.com<mailto:medea.benjamin at gmail.com>> wrote:
Lol. I agree. But don’t you think we should still push for a debate on these issues? M

On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:38 PM, David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com<mailto:davidcnswanson at gmail.com>> wrote:

IMHO the constant prioritization of veterans is what produces the schizophrenic wonder that is Tulsi Gabbard who can't open her mouth without both opposing a war and bragging about having eagerly participated in one of the worst wars ever. People are still mad at Biden for supposedly not knowing what a disaster the war on Iraq would be until it became clear to everyone . . . except apparently to Tulsi Gabbard.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:54 PM Medea Benjamin <medea.benjamin at gmail.com<mailto:medea.benjamin at gmail.com>> wrote:
That's a great idea gar but maybe not just the veterans. I love the idea of getting Tulsi on board. Do you want to draft a letter that we will use to get groups on board?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:31 PM Gar Smith <gar.smith at earthlink.net<mailto:gar.smith at earthlink.net>> wrote:
Might make a difference if our pro-peace veterans groups issued a joint public demand for a presidential debate on foreign policy/war-and-peace.
Perhaps they/we could elicit calls for support from the two military vets in the race—Mayor Pete and Tulsi.
And the Green New Dealers, of course — plus coordinated calls to progressives Warren and Sanders.

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From: Medea Benjamin
Sent: Jul 8, 2019 2:37 PM
To: "Brussel, Morton K"
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Subject: Re: debates

I think it is more accurate to say we are enthusiastic but lousy organizers. We don't know how to get the energy needed to make it possible. I'm all for it and happy to talk about how to push it. Medea

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 5:32 PM Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu<mailto:brussel at illinois.edu>> wrote:
Specific debates on foreign policy is an important idea. So far it has been missing in the presidential debates. Why are the peace groups unenthusiastic, if they are, about this idea? Doesn’t seem logical. The implication is that the population is apathetic to issues regarding foreign policy, as vitally important as they are. .

On Jul 8, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Frank Lockwood <lockwoodnow at gmail.com<mailto:lockwoodnow at gmail.com>> wrote:

Plenty of interest on my part. I cannot travel long distances right away, but I put my two bits worth in whenever I can.  See world beyond wars of tri-cities, washington. https://worldbeyondwar.org/tricities/

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 8:18 AM Sally McMillan <marugg51 at gmail.com<mailto:marugg51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds like there may be a debate on climate change.Because of lots of pressure on DNC.  We should also have a debate on foreign policy, but lack of interest from peace groups, it seems.  Let's get going for this. Very much needed.  In fact, debates on specific issues is much more useful than the free-for alls we had so far.  -Sally

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