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[Robert Naiman]

I agree with David and Carl. There's something cultish about the insistence
that all progressive people have to toe the Party Line of a particular
group of "trans-gender advocates" on these questions.

I think that people who support free speech should try to put a stop to the
depredations of this cult in Champaign-Urbana.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 8:41 PM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Eminent sense.
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 2019, at 11:28 AM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, it mystifies me as to how trans-gender advocates claim that sex
> and/or gender are not binary (on the one hand), and then proceed to
> continue to invoke the binaries of man/woman, male/female,
> masculine/feminine in legal, social, political, and medical claims that
> simply accept and re-assert/re-define those binaries. Why bother to go to
> the trouble of becoming a "woman" or "man" when, as a binary, these
> categories are claimed not to exist except as identities to be freely
> applied to oneself, to be changed, to be rejected, or to be reverted to if
> the choice doesn't happen to be satisfactory in one way or another. It
> seems to me that interrogating masculine/feminine gender characteristics
> within the context of patriarchy and sexism could be done much more
> effectively by acknowledging their biological foundations but rejecting
> biological determinism in favor of cultural evolution. It seems that trans
> advocates undermine this project when they argue that the solution for
> those who feel like the other sex to simply to become the other sex in what
> turns out to be rather gender stereotypical behavioral ways ("effeminate",
> "tough"), not to mention biological (hormonal, surgical) ways.
>
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