[Peace] Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War Billboard! U-C Friends Meeting seeks support

[Siobhan Kolar]

I think what Carl is saying does apply to the 30-40 percent who favor the war and will even in 2020.
But for most people they are against the war and need more reasons why they're against it-more reasons why they should do something -
 
this is to get the converted out the door, on the phone, to an antiwar event-
 
 



> From: sparenti at uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: [Peace] Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War Billboard! U-C Friends Meeting seeks support> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:17:55 -0500> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net> CC: peace at anti-war.net> > I don't agree, Carl. It's not a matter of critiquing the war, but of > establishing a new connection between old news and new news: old > news, the war in Iraq (terrorism is really old news; if you hear the > sniggling in the airports from everyone when the loudspeaker > announces, one more time, 'orange alert', you'd hear how that hand > has been played out); and new news, the recession.> > The bill board makes the connection visual--this old war is not only > old, it's currently costly--and the cost of things is the feeling at > the moment, not the ideological fear of things. Everyone knows the > feeling of spending too much when not enough is coming in; the first > thing you do is cutback on what's not necessary. At the moment, I > don't hear anyone being listened to with much interest, who is > arguing for the necessity of the war on Iraq, potentially on Iran. > The news about food shortages, about the housing slump, wall street > slump, rising gas costs, is making people feel poor. I feel it myself > these days,as I decide between the best mustard and the generic > mustard. Generic, wins.> mustardly,> susan> On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:58 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:> > > I continue to think this an unfortunate campaign. Putting aside > > the real question of the effect of the war on the American economy, > > it is at best a matter of preaching to the converted: you find this > > argument effective if and only if you already find something wrong > > with the war.> >> > Consider what the reaction would be to such a campaign in the US > > during the Second World War. If you said the fight against Naziism > > was costing too much, you would be condemned as someone putting a > > price on freedom.> >> > We have to be imaginative enough to realize that defenders of the > > current war hold a similar opinion. If we can't convince them that > > they're wrong about the character of the war, we won't convince > > them with niggling complaints about the cost. --CGE> >> >> > Stuart Levy wrote:> >> This billboard:> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/BarKes/NewAlbum423081210PM/photo> >> will be coming to the Champaign-Urbana region in May,> >> sponsored by the U-C Friends Meeting and American Friends' Service> >> Committee and supported by checks from everyone who wants to see it> >> happen. This will be up for 28 days at an unannounced location to be> >> chosen by the Adams Outdoor Advertising Co., which may be able to > >> give> >> us more space as the summer goes on.> >> What we need is around $1550 as projected cost for several > >> billboards.> >> $775 of that will get us the first one.> >> Please make out checks to "UC Friends' Meeting" and give> >> it to whoever is soliciting the check, OR mail the check to> >> UC Friends' Meeting> >> 1904 E. Main St.> >> Urbana, Il 61802> >> [Passing this message along from Barbara Kessel]> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---> >> _______________________________________________> >> Peace-discuss mailing list> >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> >> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss> > _______________________________________________> > Peace mailing list> > Peace at lists.chambana.net> > http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace> > _______________________________________________> Peace mailing list> Peace at lists.chambana.net> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace
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