[Peace] Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War Billboard! U-C Friends Meeting seeks support

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Mon Apr 28 11:25:18 CDT 2008


Of course, war spending may be the one thing that's boosting the US economy in 
the dying days of Bush II.

Susan Parenti wrote:
> I don't agree, Carl. It's not a matter of critiquing the war, but of 
> establishing a new connection between old news and new news: old news, 
> the war in Iraq (terrorism is really old news; if you hear the sniggling 
> in the airports from everyone when the loudspeaker announces, one more 
> time, 'orange alert', you'd hear how that hand has been played out);  
> and new news, the recession.
> 
> The bill board makes the connection visual--this old war is not only 
> old, it's currently costly--and the cost of things is the feeling at the 
> moment, not the ideological fear of things. Everyone knows the feeling 
> of spending too much when not enough is coming in; the first thing you 
> do is cutback on what's not necessary. At the moment, I don't hear 
> anyone being listened to with much interest, who is arguing for the 
> necessity of the war on Iraq, potentially on Iran. The news about food 
> shortages, about the housing slump, wall street slump, rising gas costs, 
> is making people feel poor. I feel it myself these days,as I decide 
> between the best mustard and the generic mustard. Generic, wins.
> mustardly,
> susan
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:58 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> 
>> I continue to think this an unfortunate campaign.  Putting aside the 
>> real question of the effect of the war on the American economy, it is 
>> at best a matter of preaching to the converted: you find this argument 
>> effective if and only if you already find something wrong with the war.
>>
>> Consider what the reaction would be to such a campaign in the US 
>> during the Second World War.  If you said the fight against Naziism 
>> was costing too much, you would be condemned as someone putting a 
>> price on freedom.
>>
>> We have to be imaginative enough to realize that defenders of the 
>> current war hold a similar opinion.  If we can't convince them that 
>> they're wrong about the character of the war, we won't convince them 
>> with niggling complaints about the cost. --CGE
>>
>>
>> Stuart Levy wrote:
>>> This billboard:
>>>    http://picasaweb.google.com/BarKes/NewAlbum423081210PM/photo
>>> will be coming to the Champaign-Urbana region in May,
>>> sponsored by the U-C Friends Meeting and American Friends' Service
>>> Committee and supported by checks from  everyone who wants to see it
>>> happen.  This will be up for 28 days at an unannounced location to be
>>> chosen by the Adams Outdoor Advertising Co., which may be able to give
>>> us more space as the summer goes on.
>>> What we need is around $1550 as projected cost for several billboards.
>>> $775 of that will get us the first one.
>>> Please make out checks to "UC Friends' Meeting" and give
>>> it to whoever is soliciting the check, OR mail the check to
>>>     UC Friends' Meeting
>>>     1904 E. Main St.
>>>     Urbana, Il 61802
>>> [Passing this message along from Barbara Kessel]
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