[Peace] Continutity in ignoring guidelines #1

Matt Murrey mytwords at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 19 05:30:39 CST 2008


And the event being announced in entry #1 is...?????

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Today's Topics:

   1. Continuity in killing (C. G. Estabrook)
   2. Fwd: [radcaucus] Petition to "Defend the Shoe Man	Journalist"
      making the rounds (Brian Dolinar)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:44:33 -0600
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
Subject: [Peace] Continuity in killing
To: Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
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"...the next president has no intention of genuinely getting out of Iraq
... he 
will make symbolic withdrawals of combat brigades, but plans to make permanent 
most of the 14 military bases constructed since the invasion ... [And his] 
commitment to troop escalations in Afghanistan ... represents continuity with 
the Bush Doctrine more than it does rupture...

	Published on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 by The Providence Journal
	A Hypocrite as Our Diplomat in Chief
	by John R. MacArthur

WHEN IT COMES to foreign affairs, Barack Obama seems like a serious person with

an authentic liberal's concern about the health of the world beyond our
borders. 
After all, he campaigned for president in Berlin and his blurb appears on the 
back of a book by Reinhold Neibuhr, the great liberal theologian and 
internationalist.

But so far, the president-elect's Cabinet choices make a joke of the
liberals 
who backed him in the hope that something fundamental might change in
America's 
belligerent behavior abroad. As the neo-conservative Max Boot approvingly 
observed, the appointment of Gen. James Jones as chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of 
Staff and the retention of Robert Gates as defense secretary "could just
as 
easily have come from a President McCain."

So too, in principle, could that of hawkish Hillary Clinton as secretary of 
state, which makes Obama's rhetoric of restraint in foreign affairs begin
to 
sound as empty as President Bush's professed skepticism about "nation
building" 
eight years ago during his race against Al Gore.

It's worth recalling that in the second debate with Gore, Bush even smirked
at 
the concept: "I think what we need to do is convince people who live in
the 
lands they live in to build the nations. . . . I mean, we're going to have
kind 
of a nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not. Our military is meant 
to fight and win wars. . . . And when it gets overextended, morale drops."

He had that right. Indeed, you wouldn't recognize the pre-emptive war
fanatic of 
post 9/11 if it weren't for Bush's earlier statement during the debate
in 
support of the U.S.-led bombing of Yugoslavia/Serbia during the Kosovo crisis
of 
1999. It was then that the Clinton administration initiated its own pre-emptive

war - in response to Serbia President Slobodan Milosevic's alleged
"genocide" 
against the Kosovar Albanians. The three-month bombing campaign was conducted 
under the auspices of NATO, not the United Nations, and thus was every bit as 
illegal under international law as the American invasion of Iraq, in 2003. At 
the time, Kosovo was formally part of a sovereign Yugoslavia and NATO could not

argue that the Milosevic regime had threatened or attacked a NATO member.

Hillary Clinton favored both pre-emptive wars, and was particularly aggressive 
in the case of Serbia, according to Gail Sheehy's book, Hillary's
Choice. Sheehy 
quotes Hillary's recollection of a talk with her husband: "I urged him
to bomb." 
Challenged by the president on the possible consequences - for example, more 
executions of ethnic Albanians and damaging the NATO alliance - Hillary
replied, 
"You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major

holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of
life?"

At the very least, this was a gross exaggeration. Serb repression of
Kosovo's 
national aspirations, while often brutal, was nothing resembling a
"holocaust," 
and the Kosovo Liberation Army's provocation, including the assassination
of 
Serb policemen, helped worsen the conflict. No doubt Milosevic was a very bad 
man, but that didn't stop U.S. special envoy Robert Gelbard from calling
the 
KLA, in 1998, a terrorist organization. Civilian casualties on the two sides
are 
impossible to pin down accurately, but they appear to have been comparable, 
perhaps 2,000 Albanians killed by Serb forces and 1,500 Serbs killed by NATO 
warplanes in Belgrade and elsewhere.

This all may be blood under the bridge, but it gives us an insight into the 
shoot-first temperament of the future secretary of state. According to former 
Clinton adviser Dick Morris, "Hillary has a Manichean view of issues,
splitting 
the political world into dueling forces of good and evil. . . . She sees
herself 
as idealistic, moral, and righteous, and can only conclude that those with 
opposing views must have opposite motives."

After Bush offered his solidarity with the Clintons over bombing Belgrade, 
Hillary was happy to return the favor over bombing Baghdad. In her Oct. 10, 
2002, Senate speech explaining her vote for war authorization, she declared
that 
"perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the
other 
end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with 
serious challenges to our nation." Like little Serbia's oppression of
its 
Albanian minority and its alleged threat to the American "way of
life"?

Politician to the core, Hillary couldn't resist the following hypocrisy:
While 
she wanted "to ensure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our
national 
unity and support for the president's efforts to wage America's war
against 
terrorists and weapons of mass destruction," she insisted that her vote
was not 
"a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or of unilateralism, or for
the 
arrogance of American power or purpose."

Well, they say you can't have it both ways. And trying to may well have
cost 
Hillary the presidency, since Obama's early stance against the war is what
gave 
him a leg up in the primaries.

But it's not Hillary's bellicose positions that are surprising. As a 
long-standing member of the Washington policy establishment and a
"humanitarian 
interventionist," it's easy to see why she went along with the
received 
political wisdom on Kosovo and Iraq.

What's harder to understand is why Obama - elected on a platform of greater

prudence - chose a trigger-happy hypocrite, who once mocked his "lack of 
experience" in foreign affairs, to be his diplomat-in-chief. I suspect
it's 
because the next president has no intention of genuinely getting out of Iraq - 
that he will make symbolic withdrawals of combat brigades, but plans to make 
permanent most of the 14 military bases constructed since the invasion.

Furthermore, I think that his foolish commitment to troop escalations in 
Afghanistan - much of which will come from troops transferred from Iraq - 
represents continuity with the Bush Doctrine more than it does rupture.

In the end, maybe Hillary and Barack don't make such an odd couple. We
won't 
know for sure, however, until a Democratic Party-sponsored cluster bomb - 
dropped in the name of women's rights and democracy - kills a lot of women
and 
children in a village near Kandahar.

© 2008 The Providence Journal

John R. MacArthur, publisher of Harper's Magazine. Among other books, he is
the 
author of Second Front: Censorship and Propaganda in the Gulf War.



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:19:13 -0600
From: "Brian Dolinar" <briandolinar at gmail.com>
Subject: [Peace] Fwd: [radcaucus] Petition to "Defend the Shoe Man
	Journalist" making the rounds
To: "AWARE peace" <peace at lists.chambana.net>
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*Subject: **[mediawar] "Shoe-thrower did what journalists should have done
long ago"*

Media Workers Against the War                        www.mwaw.net

1. "Muntadar al-Zaidi Did What We Journalists Should Have Done Long
Ago"

David Lindorff, author and columnist for Counterpunch, recommends that his

former ALMER MATER, Columbia University School of Journalism, hire al-Zaidi
to

teach press conference  techniques.

Read it here: http://tinyurl.com/5l4m29

2. PLEASE SIGN AND CIRCULATE:

The 50,000 Signatures Campaign for Zaidi

The campaign will proceed in demand of the release of the Iraqi Journalist,

Montadhar Al-Zaydi who hurled a pair of shoes at George Bush on 12/14/2008
in

Baghdad in reaction to Bush's immoral invasion of Iraq and the war-crimes

committed by the occupying forces with the aid of local warlords.

We hereby sign below to demand the immediate release of the Journalist

Montadhar Al-Zaydi, without any constraints or conditions. We also hold

Al-Maliki's government and the Bush administration accountable and
responsible

for his life, dignity, and well-being.

Sign the petition here:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/iwffomuntatharalzaidi/index.html




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