[Peace] Rachel MAddox on Obama's selection of Rick Warren t give inaugural address

[Stuart Levy]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:31:36AM -0800, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> The outcry against Rick Warren  has NOTHING to do w/ ANY of the stuff you mention, Wayne (as well you know). His views on gays (and choice) make him an unacceptable pick for ANYTHING to do w/ ANY gov't function (not that ANY religious stuff belongs at ANY gov't function, imho opinion (yeah, that'll happen in my lifetime). Not sure why Obama chose him -- he'd surely be able to find somebody a lot more christian (adjective) to deliver the invocation... And why look to appease the evangelicals rather than us? The election's over. So far as Jerimiah Wright's concerned -- he's made some great points, but he's made some ridiculous ones as well, e g his statement that the US gov't created the AIDS virus to get rid of blacks. Everyone knows the US gov't created the AIDS virus to get rid of gays (kidding).
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> Sooooo.... how DO I send an email to the Obama camp these days???
>  --Jenifer

One route in is the http://change.gov/ link for "Share Your Vision" (see bottom of page).
This isn't exactly a comment line, but the transition team is at least nominally listening to it:

    http://change.gov/page/s/yourvision

> PS I corrected spelling of Rachel Maddow's name so y'all could google and and watch her show every nite on yr computer.  

Great.

Followups set to peace-discuss by default...
 
> --- On Sun, 12/21/08, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
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> From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> Subject: Re: [Peace] Rachel MAddox on Obama's selection of Rick Warren t give inaugural address
> To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "UC Progressives" <ucprogressives at lists.chambana.net>, Peace at lists.chambana.net, kakranich at yahoo.com
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 2:28 AM
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> I was not at all surprised that Obama picked Rick Warren since Obama has been in his church
> Warren is quite popular and has a significant following due to his many books on church growth.
> I consider Warren's brand of teaching to be much too bland for me.
> 
> The usual criticism of Rick Warren is the way in which he uses scripture,
> the rather loose interpretations of scripture that he makes,
> and his tendency to quote paraphrases of the Bible rather 
> than literal translations or exegesis from the originals.  I have 
> always been more than a little bit leery of Warren and his books because he 
> doesn't demonstrate much scholarship in the Biblical texts.  
> 
> I have declined to participate in local events featuring Warren's programs because
> I think they are dangerously lacking in depth.  Some of my friends have made
> similar comments questioning the lack of real committment required by 
> his popular church growth programs.   Some of them express similar concerns
> when they hear Mr. Obama make his occasional profession of Christian faith.
> I was particularly concerned when Obama threw his old pastor under the bus.
> I rather like Jeremiah Wright.
> 
> We weren't at all surprised to see Warren invite Obama to a conference in 2006 where he lauded Obama.
> We had already decided by then that Warren wasn't particularly discerning.
> 
> So I must say that although I dont care for his rather mediocre scholarship and 
> emphasis on numerical membership growth rather than spiritual growth,
> I am surprised that you are moved to go so far as to call him "one disgusting s.o.b."
> 
> I think a much better choice would have been Obama's old pastor Jeremiah Wright.
> Wright is certainly more scholarly than Warren.
> 
> Wright delivered a tremendous address to the National Press Club last spring after Obama ditched him.
> It was pretty long.  I thought part 3 of 3 was the best part -
> I have kept it favorited in my YouTube box.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aM8VU47pKU
> 
> John Newton, who penned the words (not the tune) to the familiar hymn "Amazing Grace",
> was a slave trader who repented and later influenced William Wilberforce who became 
> a major player in the Abolition Movement.
> 
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> Jenifer Cartwright wrote: 
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> Rick Warren is one disgusting s o b, and I'd like to tell Obama that his invocation choice is unacceptable. My link to Obama's email doesn't go thru, now that he's resigned his senate seat. Anybody have a current. one? Thanks.
>  --Jenifer 
> 
> --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Kimberlie Kranich <kakranich at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Kimberlie Kranich <kakranich at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Peace] Rachel MAddox on Obama's selection of Rick Warren t give inaugural address
> To: "UC Progressives" <ucprogressives at lists.chambana.net>, Peace at lists.chambana.net
> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:37 AM
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