[Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana this Saturday for Dr. Tiller?

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Pro-Abortion is no doubt the more accurate of the three terms because it 
really does describe the matter conceptually.

Baby-killing could be accurate too but it really doesnt reflect the 
mindset of the unaware participants who
really just don't quite realize what they are doing.  A few do 
understand and proceed anyway, unfortunately.

Pro-choice considers the mother only and is not cognizant of the rights 
of the other individual, the child, who although unborn,
is fully alive, and has a right to its life (its future).  "To take away 
one's future is Murder" - Ken Schoolland, "The Philosophy of Liberty".

The use of "Reproductive justice" as a rhetorical cloaking device is 
totally absurd, because the innocent child, the object of reproduction,
is the one being wronged and is crying out for justice to be done.

Although I do not condone the execution of abortionists, whether by 
vigilantes, zealots, or the state, the
term Reproductive Justice actually seems to imply that anyone who 
tampers with the developing child is
liable to judgment for wrongful deeds.

On 6/3/2009 3:17 PM, Durango Mendoza wrote:
> Sarah,
>
> Your reply is so well spoken. It is absolutely clear about the nature 
> of war and reproductive justice. It was honest, respectful and made my 
> day. It was the perfect antidote to my own %#@.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DM
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:47:05 -0700
> > From: sarahrasmusson at yahoo.com
> > Subject: RE: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana this Saturday 
> for Dr. Tiller?
> > To: briandolinar at gmail.com; rachelstrm at gmail.com; prorobert8 at hotmail.com
> > CC: amasong_singers at lists.amasong.org; lena.hann at gmail.com; 
> lefortune at gmail.com; hault2 at uiuc.edu; peace at lists.chambana.net; 
> lreagan at uiuc.edu; srasmus3 at uiuc.edu; pmorey at illinois.edu; 
> wantland at illinois.edu; lenah at ppil.org; ptreich at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > I don't want to take time away from our efforts to plan a vigil 
> here, but
> > Please let me clarify a few things for you. It is my experience that 
> men tend to see abortion (aka something that happens to women) as 
> *unrelated* to war and global conflict. "Let's deal with your issues 
> later, baby, after us men take up the serious issues..."
> >
> > First of all, nobody says "pro-abortion". The position I think you 
> refer to is "pro-choice" (US/North American older language) but better 
> yet, "reproductive justice."
> >
> > Second, abortion is not a "liberal PC" issue as you say here. It is 
> a matter of human rights and social justice, not some fashionable 
> trend. If abortion were 'politically correct' as you say here, then 
> Dr. Tiller would not be dead and we would not be trying to honor him 
> or publicly acknowledge this tremendous loss.
> >
> > Furthermore, my carrer as a beat reporter in New York City, covering 
> abortion at the city, state, national and international levels made me 
> realize that WHENEVER there is war, there is usually sexual violence 
> against women (aka rape) and, therefore, abortion is necessarily an 
> issue.
> >
> > Unfortunately, abortion and war go hand in hand. And, anti-abortion 
> violence is a war.
> >
> > I myself have received death threats when I was on assignment 
> covering UN hearings on girls' need for abortion after being raped 
> during the Bosnia-Herzegovinia conflict.
> >
> > Please make no mistake, AWARE and the anti-war movement can only 
> benefit by joining the movement for reproductive justice -- the 
> killing of abortion providers is nothing less than domestic terrorism.
> >
> > In solidarity, Sarah
> >
> >
> > Sarah L. Rasmusson
> > Fellow
> > Illinois Program for Research in the Humanities (IPRH)
> > University of Illinois
> > srasmus3 at illinois.edu
> > 217-721-7733 (mobile)
> > 217-265-0308 (office)
> >
> > “New Working Girl's Hotel Encourages Matrimony:
> > Trowmart Inn, which opens next week, will put a premium on 
> engagements -- offers moderate rates for board and has no arbitrary 
> rules and regulations.”
> > -- headline, New York Times, April 6, 1906
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: RE: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana this Saturday 
> for Dr. Tiller?
> >> To: briandolinar at gmail.com, rachelstrm at gmail.com
> >> Cc: amasong_singers at lists.amasong.org, lena.hann at gmail.com, 
> sarahrasmusson at yahoo.com, lefortune at gmail.com, hault2 at uiuc.edu, 
> peace at lists.chambana.net, lreagan at uiuc.edu, srasmus3 at uiuc.edu, 
> pmorey at illinois.edu, wantland at illinois.edu, lenah at ppil.org, 
> ptreich at gmail.com
> >> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 11:19 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok, as someone that was around for the advent of AWARE, I
> >> do not recall that AWARE has ever taken any position on
> >> abortion! This is just one more example of how the
> >> anti-war movement has been watered down in America by
> >> the American Liberal Left. My 2 cents is that whether
> >> AWARE is mostly pro-abortion or mostly pro-life,
> >> it needs to stay out of these liberal PC issues that do
> >> nothing to stop the continued war in Af/Pak! I ask
> >> that folks tune into News from Neptune TV on
> >> UPTV Friday, June 6th as we will be discussing the
> >> issue of the neutralizing of the Left by Liberals and the
> >> subsequent alienation of certain members of the working
> >> class by the above mentioned elitists.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:49:24 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana this
> >> Saturday for Dr. Tiller?
> >> From: briandolinar at gmail.com
> >> To: rachelstrm at gmail.com
> >> CC: amasong_singers at lists.amasong.org; lena.hann at gmail.com;
> >> sarahrasmusson at yahoo.com; lefortune at gmail.com;
> >> hault2 at uiuc.edu; peace at lists.chambana.net; lreagan at uiuc.edu;
> >> srasmus3 at uiuc.edu; pmorey at illinois.edu;
> >> wantland at illinois.edu; lenah at ppil.org; ptreich at gmail.com
> >>
> >> I grew up in Wichita and been reeling from what's
> >> happened.
> >> I would be happy to help get the word out, call press out,
> >> and cover the event for the Independent Media Center.
> >> Anyone else interested?
> >>
> >> Peace, BD
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM,
> >> Rachel Storm <rachelstrm at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am writing this e-mail in
> >> response to an e-mail sent from local artist and
> >> reproductive justice advocate Heather Ault, whose e-mail you
> >> should be able to access below for reference.
> >>
> >> Dear Heather and Everyone,
> >>
> >> I, too, was shocked and devastated by the death of Dr.
> >> George Tiller and am so happy to know that you're
> >> interested in organizing something in his honor. I've
> >> copied your e-mail along with this one to Lena Hann,
> >> Education Programs Coordinator at Planned Parenthood and
> >> would love to help organize a prayer vigil. I haven't
> >> heard of something already underway, but perhaps Lena could
> >> let us know of whether Planned Parenthood would be a great
> >> site for the vigil--and I think it would!
> >>
> >> I'll be forwarding this message around and looking
> >> forward to organizing something for this Saturday. (I should
> >> also mention that a friend of mine and my partner
> >> Michael's was just pronounced terminally ill and has
> >> only a few short days to live. Because of this, I may be out
> >> of town, but I will certainly do all I can to make the vigil
> >> happen-- even if I cannot be present.)
> >>
> >> Let's open up a dialogue here about where, when, and
> >> how we can honor Dr. George Tiller.
> >>
> >> In peace,
> >> Rachel Storm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM,
> >> Heather Ault <hault2 at uiuc.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello friends,
> >>
> >> I'm curious if you might be interested in organizing a
> >> prayer vigil this
> >> Saturday at 10am, the time of Dr. Tiller's funeral? Or,
> >> perhaps there
> >> are efforts already underway? I'm thinking that outside
> >> of Planned
> >> Parenthood might be a great place to hold the event. Rachel
> >> has been
> >> working there as an intern, and might have some ideas.
> >>
> >> This is a really important time to rally together the
> >> reproductive
> >> rights supporters in our community and support our local
> >> Planned
> >> Parenthood! Rachel works there as an intern, and I'm
> >> sure will have some
> >> ideas. Looking forward to doing what we can do.
> >>
> >> Here's a list of other events that happened on Monday
> >> night....
> >> http://www.feministing.com/archives/015748.html
> >>
> >> And, an article with the time of his funeral...
> >> http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/46727532.html
> >>
> >> Looking forward to hearing what you all think. Or, of
> >> others people I
> >> can connect with. If you are busy or out of town, please
> >> send along your
> >> great ideas!
> >>
> >> In solidarity,
> >> Heather
> >>
> >> ...
> >> Heather Ault
> >> MFA Candidate, School of Art and Design
> >> University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
> >> www.heatherault.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rachel Storm, Transnational Gender Politics
> >> WIMSE Program Assistant
> >> Forte International Exchange Local Representative
> >>
> >>
> >>
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