[Peace] Fwd: [sf-core] Fwd: Save NPR and PBS
Belden Fields
a-fields at uiuc.edu
Sat Feb 12 11:59:02 CST 2011
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Belden Fields <a-fields at uiuc.edu>
> Date: February 12, 2011 11:50:02 AM CST
> To: "C. G. ESTABROOK" <cge at shout.net>
> Cc: SFcore <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-core] Fwd: Save NPR and PBS
>
> Well said Mike. I could not agree with you more. What NPR brings to
> us is at least civil and intelligent discussion of public affairs.
> We may disagree with the policy or ideological positions of the
> speakers, and we may feel that the range is not broad enough
> (fortunately we have McChesney locally), but civility and
> intelligence are rare enough over the commercial airwaves that we
> should not forsake NPR and PBS, There is some very good broadcasting
> on both of these if one searches it out. Purity we don't have--and
> never will
> even on our community outlets. In fact, I'm pretty sure I don't want
> ideological purity. I will contribute to NPR/PBS, just as I do to
> the IMC and WEFT.
> Thanks again Mike.
> Belden
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:22 AM, C. G. ESTABROOK wrote:
>
>> Efforts should be made instead to tear down the effective
>> censorship of Al
>> Jazeera and promote Link TV, Free Speech TV, etc.
>>
>> "I heard them say the revolution won't be televised /
>> al-Jazeera proved them wrong, Twitter has them paralyzed..."
>>
>> --Syrian-American rapper Omar Offendum
>>
>> On 2/12/11 10:42 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>>> While I really can't dispute the criticisms of NPR (and PBS) and am
>>> regularly disappointed by them, I think it's wholly
>>> counterproductive to
>>> presume that the elimination of either would benefit those seeking
>>> alternatives to the present system.
>>>
>>> Society needs more spaces where something other than FAUX News and
>>> Corporate News Network prevail. It may not be a perfect space, and
>>> certainly never enough to justifiably satisfy some critics, but
>>> eliminating "public" broadcasting would serve FAUX and CNN, rather
>>> than
>>> weaken the system that make the broader conversations our society
>>> needs
>>> so difficult. Neither CNN or FAUX is subject to public pressure,
>>> while
>>> "public" broadcasting is, however much it still falls short of what
>>> would be ideal.
>>>
>>> I can see people saying they won't lift a finger to help PBS and
>>> NPR.
>>> But urging others to join the Republicans in helping eliminate
>>> one of
>>> the few spaces left where a progressive argument at least gets aired
>>> from time to time isn't something I consider to be an effective
>>> strategy
>>> to building alternative media spaces that challenge the status quo.
>>>
>>> The masses of teeming apathy have to have someplace comfortable to
>>> start
>>> a journey to alternative ways of looking at the world and our
>>> society.
>>> Slamming the gate to the path to move from the garden of evil into
>>> the
>>> garden of justice and peace is not going to cause more than a very
>>> few
>>> to look to jump over the fence instead.
>>>
>>> And I doubt if either is going away, even if the Repugnicans/Tea
>>> Party
>>> get their fantasy of eliminating both. They'll just become more
>>> dependent on corporate cash -- and that will make all the things
>>> they
>>> are criticized for worse.
>>>
>>> Far better to waste such physic and political energy on better
>>> alternatives so that once people are roused from their sleep, they
>>> have
>>> a place to grab a cup of coffee to steel their nerves to go beyond
>>> the
>>> conflicted American dreamscape that PBS and NPR offer. Revolution is
>>> what we build, not what we help reactionaries tear down.
>>> Mike Lehman
>>>
>>> On 2/11/2011 10:11 PM, David Johnson wrote:
>>>> I have had no use for NPR ( National Public Radio ) and PBS TV
>>>> for quite
>>>> some time.
>>>>
>>>> Cases in point....
>>>>
>>>> The propoganda campaign they aired when Reagan died a few years
>>>> ago ( may
>>>> his soul rot in hell ) that presented Reagan as an idolized icon,
>>>> with NO
>>>> counter view of Reagan and his disasterous foreign ( can you say
>>>> " war
>>>> crimes " ) policy and his disasterous neo-liberal / neo-
>>>> conservative
>>>> domestic policies.
>>>>
>>>> Then there was the coverage of the People's Historian Howard Zinn
>>>> when he
>>>> died a little over a year ago. The ONLY view about Howard Zinn
>>>> presented on
>>>> NPR was the trash job on Zinn done by David Howoritz.
>>>>
>>>> NPR is nothing but FOX " news " for the intelligencia.
>>>>
>>>> The reason of course for NPR's de-evolution is the ever
>>>> increasing reliance
>>>> over the years on corporate funding.
>>>>
>>>> I could care less if NPR goes off the air.
>>>> It would be one less corporate news outlet.
>>>> What suprises me is the large number of seemingly well educated and
>>>> supposedly " compasionate and progressive " people who still
>>>> listen to NPR's
>>>> corpoarte trash and consider it an " opposition " and " objective
>>>> " news
>>>> source.
>>>>
>>>> David J.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "C. G. ESTABROOK"<cge at shout.net>
>>>> To: "Belden Fields"<a-fields at uiuc.edu>
>>>> Cc: "Walter Feinberg"<wfeinber at illinois.edu>; "Fred Coombs Fred
>>>> Coombs"
>>>> <coombs at rainbowtel.net>; "SFcore"<sf-core at yahoogroups.com>;
>>>> <sadougla at illinois.edu>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sf-core] Fwd: Save NPR and PBS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> National Propaganda Radio? Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> NPR reports on Obama's war in the Mideast probably don't differ
>>>>> formally
>>>>> from
>>>>> official Russian accounts during their invasion of Afghanistan.
>>>>> They would
>>>>> have
>>>>> discussed how can we get victory, how can we destroy the
>>>>> terrorists, will
>>>>> this
>>>>> tactic work, will that tactic work, we're losing too many
>>>>> soldiers and so
>>>>> on. We
>>>>> assume that no one in the official Russian media asked, Do we
>>>>> have a right
>>>>> to
>>>>> invade another country? And of course NPR doesn't do that either.
>>>>>
>>>>> But NPR has far less excuse. With media under totalitarian
>>>>> control, if you
>>>>> said
>>>>> the wrong thing you'd go off to the gulag. Here it's just willing
>>>>> subordination
>>>>> to power. The result is no main-stream journalism - even
>>>>> (particularly?)
>>>>> NPR -
>>>>> that goes beyond the college newspaper cheering for the home team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Hedges prefaces his important new book, "The Death of the
>>>>> Liberal
>>>>> Class,"
>>>>> with a passage from Orwell's suppressed introduction to Animal
>>>>> Farm:
>>>>>
>>>>> "At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of
>>>>> ideas which it
>>>>> is
>>>>> assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without
>>>>> question. It is
>>>>> not
>>>>> exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is 'not
>>>>> done' to
>>>>> say
>>>>> it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was 'not done' to mention
>>>>> trousers
>>>>> in the
>>>>> presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing
>>>>> orthodoxy finds
>>>>> himself
>>>>> silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely
>>>>> unfashionable opinion
>>>>> is
>>>>> almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press
>>>>> or in the
>>>>> highbrow periodicals" - and, he might have added, on highbrow
>>>>> radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> During the presidential campaign Obama said that the spectrum of
>>>>> discussion in
>>>>> the United States extends between two crazy extremes, Rush
>>>>> Limbaugh and
>>>>> NPR. The
>>>>> truth, he said, is in the middle and that is where he is going
>>>>> to be - in
>>>>> the
>>>>> middle, between the crazies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama has a way of telling the truth about his right-wing
>>>>> politics,
>>>>> certain that
>>>>> no one will hear him. NPR certainly won't tell.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/11/11 7:55 PM, Belden Fields wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *Troy
>>>>>>> Burks<burkstroy at yahoo.com<mailto:burkstroy at yahoo.com>>
>>>>>>> *Date: *February 11, 2011 1:28:18 PM CST
>>>>>>> *To: *A EL-
>>>>>>> Jamal<sbygrace at yahoo.com<mailto:sbygrace at yahoo.com>>, Aaron
>>>>>>> Ammons<livingsoul at sbcglobal.net<mailto:livingsoul at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>> Arrington<aarrington at DMBGC-CU.ORG<mailto:aarrington at DMBGC-
>>>>>>> CU.ORG>>,
>>>>>>> Angela
>>>>>>> Barbee<evansbarbee at yahoo.com<mailto:evansbarbee at yahoo.com>>,
>>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>>> <aphenry27 at gmail.com<mailto:aphenry27 at gmail.com>>, Arthur Culver
>>>>>>> <culverar at champaignschools.org<mailto:culverar at champaignschools.
>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>> rg>>,
>>>>>>> Barbara kessel<barkes at gmail.com<mailto:barkes at gmail.com>>,
>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>> Gillespie
>>>>>>> <bggillespie at sbcglobal.net<mailto:bggillespie at sbcglobal.net>>,
>>>>>>> Belden
>>>>>>> Fields
>>>>>>> <a-fields at uiuc.edu<mailto:a-fields at uiuc.edu>>, Ben Rothschild
>>>>>>> <rothsch2 at gmail.com<mailto:rothsch2 at gmail.com>>, Benita Gay
>>>>>>> <bgay at communityelements.org<mailto:bgay at communityelements.org>>,
>>>>>>> Bernice
>>>>>>> Harrington<bharring at illinois.edu<mailto:bharring at illinois.edu>>,
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> <hardheadent at vzw.blackberry.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:hardheadent at vzw.blackberry.net>>,
>>>>>>> Brandon Bowersox<brandonbowersox at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:brandonbowersox at gmail.com>>, Brian Dolinar
>>>>>>> <briandolinar at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:briandolinar at gmail.com>>, Byron Clark<byroncl at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:byroncl at gmail.com>>, carol ammons<carolammons at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:carolammons at gmail.com>>, Carol
>>>>>>> Inskeep<carolinskeep at yahoo.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:carolinskeep at yahoo.com>>, Charlie
>>>>>>> Smyth<csmyth at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:csmyth at sbcglobal.net>>, Chris
>>>>>>> Hamb<chrishamb at chrishamb.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:chrishamb at chrishamb.com>>, Claire Cape
>>>>>>> <claire.kirkcape351 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:claire.kirkcape351 at gmail.com>>, Cope Cumpston
>>>>>>> <cope.c at comcast.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:cope.c at comcast.net>>, "Craig Walker cwsierramar at aol.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:cwsierramar at aol.com>"<cwalker at Brv-llc.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:cwalker at Brv-llc.com>>, Crystal Thomas
>>>>>>> <crystal_s_thomas at hotmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:crystal_s_thomas at hotmail.com>>, CU Greg Square
>>>>>>> <gsquare at parkland.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:gsquare at parkland.edu>>, CU Toriano Harvey
>>>>>>> <t.harvey.4 at hotmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:t.harvey.4 at hotmail.com>>, Danielle Chynoweth
>>>>>>> <danielle at prometheusradio.org<mailto:danielle at prometheusradio.or
>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Danis
>>>>>>> Pelmore<Danispelmore at comcast.net<mailto:Danispelmore at comcast.net
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Debarah
>>>>>>> McFarland<DMcFarland at DMBGC-CU.ORG<mailto:DMcFarland at DMBGC-
>>>>>>> CU.ORG>>,
>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>> Roberts<drobertscitycouncil at yahoo.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:drobertscitycouncil at yahoo.com>>, Diane Marlin
>>>>>>> <marlindiane at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:marlindiane at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> *Subject: **Fw: Save NPR and PBS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On *Fri, 2/11/11, Daniel Mintz, MoveOn.org Political Action
>>>>>>> /<moveon-help at list.moveon.org<mailto:moveon-
>>>>>>> help at list.moveon.org>>/*
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Daniel Mintz, MoveOn.org Political Action
>>>>>>> <moveon-help at list.moveon.org<mailto:moveon-
>>>>>>> help at list.moveon.org>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Save NPR and PBS
>>>>>>> To: "Rev. Troy A. Burks"<burkstroy at yahoo.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:burkstroy at yahoo.com>>
>>>>>>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:07 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://pol.moveon.org/nprpbs/?
>>>>>>> id=26078-17377114-0nf7g3x&t=1>"Congress
>>>>>>> must protect NPR and PBS and guarantee them permanent
>>>>>>> funding, free
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> political meddling."
>>>>>>> <http://pol.moveon.org/nprpbs/?
>>>>>>> id=26078-17377114-0nf7g3x&t=1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sign the petition
>>>>>>> <http://pol.moveon.org/nprpbs/?
>>>>>>> id=26078-17377114-0nf7g3x&t=2>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear MoveOn member,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Republicans back in charge of the House of
>>>>>>> Representatives,
>>>>>>> *funding
>>>>>>> for NPR and PBS is in grave danger.* Again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Republicans just released their budget proposal, and
>>>>>>> it *zeroes
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> funding for both NPR and PBS*—the worst proposal in more
>>>>>>> than a
>>>>>>> decade.^1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They probably think that no one will notice these cuts
>>>>>>> in the midst
>>>>>>> of so
>>>>>>> many others. But the millions of listeners and viewers
>>>>>>> who rely on
>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>> broadcasting for "Sesame Street," "All Things
>>>>>>> Considered," and
>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>> journalism will notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to tell Republicans that cutting off funding was
>>>>>>> unacceptable last
>>>>>>> time they were in charge, and it's unacceptable now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add your name to the petition to save NPR and PBS
>>>>>>> <http://pol.moveon.org/nprpbs/?
>>>>>>> id=26078-17377114-0nf7g3x&t=3>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The petition says: "/Congress must protect NPR and PBS
>>>>>>> and guarantee
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> permanent funding, free from political meddling./"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all you do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> –Daniel, Amy, Michael, Wes, and the rest of the team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. "Beyond Reason on the Budget," /The New York Times/,
>>>>>>> February 10,
>>>>>>> 2011
>>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11fri1.html
>>>>>>>
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