[Peace] [sf-core] Re: Sinai Temple: Help Reconcile C-U's Traumatized Communities

Sun Dec 4 19:46:14 UTC 2016

I have to get my two cents worth in here now.

I agree with everything Pilger and Blum have to say.

I do not agree with Carl’s assessment of Jill Stein when he says: "I voted for Stein but deplore her recently-revealed subservience to the Democrats in attempting to influence the Electoral College to make Clinton president.”

While I initially did not support her taking on the recount, I’m not really sure now where I stand on that issue, either way, her intentions were not to "ingratiate herself", or show “subservience" to the Democrat Party or Hillary.

A major concern has been election fraud in relation to “electronic” voting, and the Electoral College, which is an antiquated system that needs to be done away with. It wont be easy. The very fact that the states involved have refused to cooperate and even refused to do a hand count, is evidence that something is very wrong, change is very necessary, and Jill has taken that task in hand.

John Pilger wrote before the election, ""The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times — taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears — demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China’s Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world’s great power talking peace – however unlikely – would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.”

https://newmatilda.com/2016/03/23/john-pilger-why-hillary-clinton-is-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump/

—CGE

On Dec 4, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

If it walks like a duck....

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On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:17 AM, "Fields, A Belden via Peace" <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Carl,

Is this an endorsement of Trump?
Belden

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On Dec 3, 2016, at 7:58 PM, 'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com<mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com> [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com<mailto:sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

MoveOn and some members of the Stein campaign (but not the Green party) are attempting to use recounts and appeals to make the neoliberal and neoconservative candidate, Hillary Clinton, president.

All major party presidential candidates for 40 years have been both neoliberal (which means more inequality) and neoconservative (which means more war).

For proof, look what the US government has done since the 1970s - in all administrations -  in regard to jobs and war: our jobs - and our military - are sent overseas, for the profits of the American economic elite, the 1%.

Trump is the first major party presidential candidate in that time who isn’t either a neoliberal or a neoconservative. Therefore the US political class - the 1% and their minions in the "permanent government/deep state" - are trying to deny him the presidency, by way of the Electoral College - because he might not continue the Bush-Obama-Clinton policies of war and austerity.

They might succeed.

(BTW, it's NOT the Greens: the Green party said no to flacking for Clinton, as did Green VP nominee Ajamu Baraka; Jill Stein, her campaign manager David Cobb, and Democratic party front group ‘MoveOn' are the ones attempting to deny Trump a majority in the Electoral College.)

—CGE

On Dec 3, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Just Foreign Policy <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org<mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:

Dear Supporter,

Urge Sinai Temple's Alan Cook to lead to help reconcile C-U communities.

Take Action

Many communities in Champaign-Urbana were unexpectedly traumatized by the election of Donald Trump. Now, we need enlightened and responsible leadership in all corners to help our traumatized communities reconcile.

Hillel said:

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
If not now, when?"

"That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn."

The children of Abraham - fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer - need to be reconciled.

Urge Alan Cook to use his leadership position at Sinai Temple to help chase away darkness and reconcile the children of Abraham in Champaign-Urbana by signing our petition at MoveOn.

Thanks for all you do to help make the house we live in more just,

Robert Naiman
Just Foreign Policy

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