[Peace] [Peace-discuss] Kyle Ammons' remarks after Passage of UrbanaSanctuary City

[David Green]

I listened to the Ammons's WEFT program yesterday morning, and was left as nonplussed as Midge. Positive reflections on Ron Karenga's black nationalism, who opposed the Black Panther Party, are problematic. The related promotion of local "black capitalism" can hardly, in my view, be understood as challenging structural racism in any meaningful way. I was interested in some of the knowledgeable comments of Craig Walker about how housing/project developers operate in our community. But all of this seems to me a scattershot approach to an issue as fundamental as universal affordable housing, so desperately needed among what has become a majority of the population of all racial/ethnic backgrounds.
DG 

    On Sunday, December 25, 2016 7:07 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
 
 

 One hardly knows where to begin, other than correcting the subject line wherein Alderman Aaron Ammons is misidentified as "Kyle" Ammons. 

This list continually confounds and baffles. 

Deb

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> On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:22 PM, "C. G. Estabrook via Peace" <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Ammons, like may other Americans, has been misled into thinking that slavery in America was a matter of race relations (black people and white people) rather than capitalism (owners and workers).
> 
> "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations — as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa.
> 
> "No one dreams of analyzing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analyzing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." [B. J. Fields]
> 
> See now "How Race Is Conjured: The fiction of race hides the real source of racism and inequity in America today," by Barbara J. Fields & Karen E. Fields, Jacobin 6.29.15
> 
> This misleading - sometimes innocent but often not - protects capitalism from criticism by directing that criticism to racial prejudice (which itself should be distinguished from racism properly speaking, which is a matter of law, as in apartheid South Africa or Israel). Racism existed in the Virginia of my youth, but the laws were changed (see the current film “Loving”). Racial prejudice still exists there - but racism as a legal structure doesn’t.
> 
> --CGE
> 
> 
>> On 2016-12-24 16:41, Mildred O'brien wrote:
>> I don't know if other people attending the Urbana City Council meeting
>> after the passage of the Urbana Sanctuary City Ordinance were
>> listening and offended as I was by remarks of Council person Ammons
>> who lectured "descendants of immigrants" who (supposedly) enslaved his
>> ancestors but now petitioned on behalf of undocumented immigrants.  I
>> was astonished by such language at the time but thought perhaps I had
>> not heard what I thought I heard.  Today on WEFT I heard a replay of
>> the Council proceedings of December 19 after the passage of the
>> Ordinance which confirmed my recollection of his words, which blamed
>> [white] immigrants in general for  enslaving his people.
>> It is not been historically established that more than 10 - 15% of
>> Colonials were responsible for the importation and exploitation of
>> slave labor.  Realistically, servitude of black or white enforced
>> labor was not economically feasible for the majority of landless
>> immigrants to America who were destitute or themselves enslaved
>> (Caucasians for 7 to 10 years or more, Africans for life) but was
>> restricted to wealthy Europeans primarily from England. My own
>> paternal ancestor immigrant was kidnapped from Ireland in 1698 at
>> twelve years of age and transplanted to work for a wealthy Englishman
>> in tobacco fields of Maryland until the age of 21.
>> It is not helpful for contemporary descendants of perceived past
>> aggrievances to tar people of good intentions with presumably
>> inherited guilt for which they had no responsibility, but to work in
>> harmony to prevent repetition of transgressions.
>> Midge O'Brien
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