[Peace] Et tu, Brute? Chris Murphy bashes Obama, Kerry, UN on UNSC Res 2334

[Carl G. Estabrook]

“...it hardly seems helpful to focus on 'anti-Semitism' among Trump advisors…”

Exactly. The task would seem to be to discourage the colonization of the Trump administration by the neocons, as they did the Obama administration. 

They were frightened by Trump’s opposition to the war party. Let’s encourage their fears.

—CGE


> On Dec 29, 2016, at 12:26 PM, David Green via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Bob, I get that politicians are afraid of displeasing their Zionist donors. Otherwise, I'm not sure what your point is. Perhaps I'm experiencing some end-of-the-year density.
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> Nevertheless, look at the comments in response to the NYT editorial, as well as the editorial itself:
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/opinion/is-israel-abandoning-a-two-state-solution.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0
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> Sort the comments by readers picks. This signals a significant change among liberal readers of the NYT. Admittedly, it is provoked mostly by their defense of Obama and their opposition to Trump. There is a certain superficiality regarding this issue among those who have kept silent during the Obama administration; but clearly there are a lot of repressed individuals who no longer feel they have anything to lose by criticizing Israel. And ironically, with Trump coming into office in reconciliation with Russia, he is also provoking sensible and perhaps effective opposition to his prospective hardline policy on I/P, including and especially among Jews.
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> I can't imagine that this would have transpired with an incoming HRC administration.
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> Under these circumstances, it hardly seems helpful to focus on "anti-Semitism" among Trump advisors, if that's what anyone is doing, and I fear that indeed is what JVP has been doing.
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> Just food for thought.
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> DG
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> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 11:36 AM, Robert Naiman via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> I try to tell my ultra-left friends about the terrain we're dealing with on I-P in DC. They don't want to hear it. They think I'm being a big bully for saying they can't have unicorns and ponies. 
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> So. Show don't tell. Exhibit 7,233. The court calls Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy to testify. Mr. Progressive Foreign Policy. Mr. I-want-to-be-the-Elizabeth-War ren-of-foreign-policy. To his everlasting credit, the first Senator to say boo about the Obama Administration's support for Saudi Arabia's catastrophic war in Yemen. Enter Chris Murphy. 
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> Speaking to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” the Senate Foreign Relations Committee member said the U.N. is “just fundamentally not a fair forum for the Israelis” and that the White House should have vetoed the Security Council measure condemning America’s closest ally in the Middle East.
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> [my emphasis]
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> http://www.politico.com/story/ 2016/12/chris-murphy-barack-ob ama-john-kerry-israel-donald-t rump-233026
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> Chris Murphy's comment about the UN is pure sophistry, and Chris Murphy, as a not-completely-stupid person, surely knows it. Say the Human Rights Council is "not a fair forum for the Israelis." Fine. Say the General Assembly is "not a fair forum for the Israelis." Fine. The Security Council is not the Human Rights Council and is not the General Assembly, and as a not-completely-stupid person, Chris Murphy surely knows that. The United States of F*ing America has a VETO on the UN Security Council. NOTHING HAPPENS at the UN Security Council without US permission, and as a not-completely-stupid person, Chris Murphy surely knows that. Not to mention the subsidiary fact that to define Britain and France and even Russia as "anti-Israel," you have to define "anti-Israel" as "people who insist that we eat our vegetables before we can eat our dessert." If the UK and France are "anti-Israel," then your spouse who gently tries to suggest that maybe you've had enough wine to drink at the party is anti-Semitic.    
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