[Peace] [Peace-discuss] July 4th - how about Celebrating America's History of Protest?

[C. G. Estabrook]

CELEBRATE AMERICA’S
AVERSION TO WAR
“The soundest part of the Nation 
is always averse to War.”
--Pres. John Adams, 1813

US Has Killed 
More Than 20 
Million People 
In 37 Nations 
Since WWII

Obama's Drone Assassinations
Kill Thousands:  US citizens 
& hundreds of children...
'The Most Extreme Terrorist 
Campaign of Modern Times'



> On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:33 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> The good news is that the forecast calls for high 70s next Monday morning.  The bad news is that many CU progressives who oppose war are firmly aligned with the Ammons Democrats.
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> On Monday, June 27, 2016 11:02 AM, Karen Medina via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Very good point about protest as exception.
> the problem with america's rejection of war is two-fold...
> 1. Rejection of war as exception, the same  point you made could be said here.
> 2. We need other groups to join us. There aren't enough AWARE who can walk in the heat, that will be in town, that aren't working that day. 3.5 people can make an impact, but we are also part of a community that is aching to be heard, "fellow americans, democracy means protesting", otherwise we would still have slavery, women could not vote, veterans would have no benefits, workers would have no contracts, and the vietnam  war would not have ended. // america doesn't reject war enough.
> -karen medina
> On Jun 27, 2016 8:54 AM, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
> The difficulty with this theme is that it implies “protest” is the exception - and what’s being protested against (war) is is usual and expected - and therefore in some sense justified - “in possession,” as lawyers might say.
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> We might “Celebrate America” by saying “Celebrate America’s Rejection of War,” since every US war since the beginning has been opposed by the US public. (See attachment.)
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> As President John Adams wrote in 1813, "The middle third ..., the soundest part of the Nation [is] always averse to War.”
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> —CGE
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> > On Jun 25, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Stuart Levy via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> > Thinking about July 4th Parade time again.   We'll be sending in AWARE's application today or tomorrow.
> >
> > Karen Medina had an idea which I think is just brilliant, taking off on the generic parade theme of "Celebrating America":
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> >     How about Celebrating America's History of Protest?
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> > We can go for anti-war anti-imperial protests (need a Eugene V Debs poster!), anti-slavery protests (some of our old signs might fit, like Elijah Lovejoy of Alton, IL), for protests throughout labor history (collective bargaining, a 40-hour week, minimum wage...)!, for the Civil Rights movement protests, for the great veterans' protest after WWI...  - there are lots of directions and we can choose whatever we most like.
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> > Anyone mind adopting this (broad) theme?   Barring objections I'd like to say this is what we'll do.
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