[Peace] [Peace-discuss] July 4th - how about Celebrating America's History of Protest?

[Karen Medina]

Perfect.
Now we need a sign making party.
Would saturday night work? Where?
On Jun 27, 2016 12:08 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

> CELEBRATE AMERICA’S
> AVERSION TO WAR
> “The soundest part of the Nation
> is always averse to War.”
> --Pres. John Adams, 1813
>
> US Has Killed
> More Than 20
> Million People
> In 37 Nations
> Since WWII
>
> Obama's Drone Assassinations
> Kill Thousands:  US citizens
> & hundreds of children...
> 'The Most Extreme Terrorist
> Campaign of Modern Times'
>
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:33 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The good news is that the forecast calls for high 70s next Monday
> morning.  The bad news is that many CU progressives who oppose war are
> firmly aligned with the Ammons Democrats.
>
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 11:02 AM, Karen Medina via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Very good point about protest as exception.
> the problem with america's rejection of war is two-fold...
> 1. Rejection of war as exception, the same  point you made could be said
> here.
> 2. We need other groups to join us. There aren't enough AWARE who can walk
> in the heat, that will be in town, that aren't working that day. 3.5 people
> can make an impact, but we are also part of a community that is aching to
> be heard, "fellow americans, democracy means protesting", otherwise we
> would still have slavery, women could not vote, veterans would have no
> benefits, workers would have no contracts, and the vietnam  war would not
> have ended. // america doesn't reject war enough.
> -karen medina
> On Jun 27, 2016 8:54 AM, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss" <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> The difficulty with this theme is that it implies “protest” is the
> exception - and what’s being protested against (war) is is usual and
> expected - and therefore in some sense justified - “in possession,” as
> lawyers might say.
>
> We might “Celebrate America” by saying “Celebrate America’s Rejection of
> War,” since every US war since the beginning has been opposed by the US
> public. (See attachment.)
>
> As President John Adams wrote in 1813, "The middle third ..., the soundest
> part of the Nation [is] always averse to War.”
>
> —CGE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Stuart Levy via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >
> > Thinking about July 4th Parade time again.   We'll be sending in AWARE's
> application today or tomorrow.
> >
> > Karen Medina had an idea which I think is just brilliant, taking off on
> the generic parade theme of "Celebrating America":
> >
> >     How about Celebrating America's History of Protest?
> >
> > We can go for anti-war anti-imperial protests (need a Eugene V Debs
> poster!), anti-slavery protests (some of our old signs might fit, like
> Elijah Lovejoy of Alton, IL), for protests throughout labor history
> (collective bargaining, a 40-hour week, minimum wage...)!, for the Civil
> Rights movement protests, for the great veterans' protest after WWI...  -
> there are lots of directions and we can choose whatever we most like.
> >
> > Anyone mind adopting this (broad) theme?   Barring objections I'd like
> to say this is what we'll do.
> >
> >
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