[Peace] Mark Blyth interviews on Jimmy Dore are well worth watching

Wed Apr 15 19:08:07 UTC 2020

David, you maybe referring to my statement below in reference to John’s snarky comment: 
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>>>   So four more years of tRump then, Karen?  Or is now the time for that violent, bloody revolution we’ve been dreaming of our whole lives?  

If one only looks at the surface and assumes we can push Biden to do the right thing, if we continue to bend the knee to power, taking whatever crumbs of cake the ruling elites throw at us, it’s going to be very bloody. Wait until the economy crashes, crime escalates, gangs roam the streets as starving people become really angry. People are already dying in record numbers from the pandemic and our government owned by corporate capitalists. 

Why do you think FDR gave us the New Deal, because he’s a nice guy?  He did it to save capitalism as he feared a revolution, due to the many people, workers, socialists etc. in the streets protesting, striking, sit downs etc. 
Why did Johnson de-escalate the war in Vietnam 1968? Because the many people in the streets was an embarrassment internationally, for the ruling elites, and Johnson’s advisors. The revolt by the soldiers and veterans was the final step.

Gandi utilized non violence and it was effective at driving out the British, but the people did take action, sit ins, strikes, blocking traffic, rail transport, putting their lives on the line. 

The civil rights movement, led by MLK, and started years before by CORE and others with sit-ins, is an example of that which works, with nonviolence.

Why did Nixon end the draft, and give us the EPA? He feared the people in the streets, he feared a revolution.

People don’t have healthcare, jobs, or a living wage, and the Democrat Party isn’t going to give us anything more than what Obama did, because the insurance cos. and pharma cos. own our government, along with our weapons manufacturers, oil cos. etc. As awful as Trump is, he isn’t the disease he is a symptom of the disease of rot and decay that is our system. Unless we have system change the decline will continue. Global warming and nuclear war are the two major threats facing us and the Democrat Party is doing nothing about it, or providing a veneer and watered down versions of what we need. 

We get a Democrat in power and the liberals all go to sleep, they only wake up when there is a Republican in power. Even then I have to ask what are they doing about anything, other than here in our own little community. We can put on our pink hats and get on buses to DC anytime the DNC provides us, and we feel insulted, or disrespected. Never mind, the people we have slaughtered in our eight wars in less than twenty years, they don’t count, they aren’t white and we only care about the people of color in our own neighborhood. 

We will only have system change when the people insist upon it by getting off the treadmill of insanity, expecting our corrupt electoral system to put in place another individual, who might be kinder to us, if we ask nicely. The Republican and Democrat Party’s both represent the ruling class and the working class ain’t apart of it.

Violence occurs every day when our militarized police shoot us down in the streets, our incarceration of huge numbers of people, with our prison system of for profit, prevents many of the poor from rising up. And, our most profitable business next to financial services is weapons of destruction and war which will be worse, much worse under Biden, or anyone of the current system for that matter.  

The problem today, is we lack a strong labor movement, we have a lot of people who are unemployed thus lacking power. Which is why its up to the many Americans who are politically active to focus on what needs to be done, and its not focusing on elections. 

Occupy had the right idea, as to focus, and if they had been better organized, had stronger cohesive leadership, and a plan, they might not have given up so easily when the police dispersed them in Zukotti park. 

Karen Aram

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:21, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> John,
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> Your statement and analysis is absolutely FANTASTIC !
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> I am sorry to say that a lot of the negative you detail is true, but accurate nevertheless.
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> You should post this on Facebook.
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> Yours in admiration
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> David Johnson
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> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:54 PM
> To: John W.
> Cc: Peace Discuss; J.B. Nicholson; Peace
> Subject: Re: [Peace] Mark Blyth interviews on Jimmy Dore are well worth watching
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>  
> Your statement:
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> "Yes.  And there are those who believe that the implied violence of Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael, the Black Panthers, and others played a role also.”
> is correct, absolutely. 
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> On Apr 14, 2020, at 16:47, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com <mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 6:08 PM Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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>> John
>>  
>> If one only looks at the surface and assumes we can push Biden to do the right thing, if we continue to bend the knee to power, taking whatever crumbs of cake the ruling elites throw at us, it’s going to be very bloody. Wait until the economy crashes, crime escalates, gangs roam the streets as starving people become really angry. People are already dying in record numbers from the pandemic and our government owned by corporate capitalists. 
>>  
>> Why do you think FDR gave us the New Deal, because he’s a nice guy?  He did it to save capitalism as he feared a revolution, due to the many people, workers, socialists etc. in the streets protesting, striking, sit downs etc. 
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> Well, I think he was probably a pretty nice guy, a person of genuine integrity, as was his wife.  And yes, they were desperate times which called for desperate measures.  Intelligent desperate measures.
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>> Why did Johnson de-escalate the war in Vietnam 1968? Because the many people in the streets was an embarrassment internationally, for the ruling elites, and Johnson’s advisors. The revolt by the soldiers and veterans was the final step.
>>  
>> Gandi utilized non violence and it was effective at driving out the British, but the people did take action, sit ins, strikes, blocking traffic, rail transport, putting their lives on the line. 
>>  
>> The civil rights movement, led by MLK, and started years before by CORE and others with sit-ins, is an example of that which works, with nonviolence.
>  
> Yes.  And there are those who believe that the implied violence of Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael, the Black Panthers, and others played a role also.
>  
>  
>> Why did Nixon end the draft, and give us the EPA? He feared the people in the streets, he feared a revolution.
>>  
>> People don’t have healthcare, jobs, or a living wage, and the Democrat Party isn’t going to give us anything more than what Obama did, because the insurance cos. and pharma cos. own our government, along with our weapons manufacturers, oil cos. etc.
>  
> More than they did in the FDR era?
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>>>   So four more years of tRump then, Karen?  Or is now the time for that violent, bloody revolution we've been dreaming of our whole lives?  
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