[Peace] News from Neptune #449 notes

Sat Feb 1 15:57:26 UTC 2020

My thoughts on yesterdays program:

I agree with J. B.Nicholson in relation to third party’s and progress, if we want progress we can’t become content with lesser than achievable, as has been said “all progress is the result of the disgruntled taking action.” 

As to Chomsky again supporting the Democrat Party, Jill Stein told me, when here in 2016, as I expressed my surprise over Chomsky’s support for Hillary, “Chomsky has never supported a third Party.” So, he like many others is on the bandwagon of “support the lesser evil.” 
This from the same person who never gave up informing us of the horrors of war, and US foreign policy, not just what but who, and why. He has been recently criticized for not offering solutions, leaving it to us. He is now over 90, and not a revolutionary, so we should give credit where credit is due. His support for the Party responsible for expanding the Bush wars from two to eight is very disappointing, but with the current President’s total denial of climate change, I see his Chomky’s fear of allowing Trump and his minions back into the WH. 

Where is Extinction Rebellion in the US? They are the only group taking real action on this ever threatening horror facing humanity. 

As to David’s suggestion that those of us who don’t support or join in the enthusiasm of the young people over Sanders and his socialist platform, I say, come on David we all know Sanders isn’t a true socialist, he is a “Socialist Democrat.” Howie Hawkins gives a good definition of Bernies socialism vs. Marx on the recent Crosstalk program I posted. Though I will likely vote for Sanders as there are few alternatives out there, and Bernie is the best candidate of our one Party system in years, I know too well that if he isn’t sidelined by the DNC, and is allowed to become President, they won’t let him do any of the things he wishes to do, or needs to do to bring about change or progress. At best he’ll be allowed to not do some of the awful things we see Trump doing, and maybe reversing a few. 

 Two days ago, a woman dismayed that her sons in their twenties are excited about Sanders, and they dismiss her attempts to explain he isn’t really a socialist, I told her “don’t rain on their parade,” they have to learn the reality of politics just as we did when supporting Obama. However, when a woman my age recently was so excited about Bernie given how awful Trump is, as she is now “woke.” I couldn’t restrain myself with “yeah, great but make no mistake, he is little different than Obama, in that once in power he’ll capitulate to power just as did Obama and all other Presidents before him, or he’ll have another heart attack. 

What we need is system change, not just change in the WH. 

> On Jan 31, 2020, at 23:54, J.B. Nicholson via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> News from Neptune #449
> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwUj9wDTAiU
> An "If God had meant us to vote, she would have sent us candidates" edition
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> A list of links to items referenced on the show.
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> Sunny Kim (CNBC) on "Elizabeth Warren proposes criminal penalties for spreading voting disinformation online"
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/warren-proposes-criminal-penalties-for-spreading-disinformation-online.html
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> Related: Glenn Greenwald reaction to Sen. Elizabeth Warren's proposal to censor "misinformation"
> https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1222841439597531136
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>> This is an awful, authoritarian, unworkable, and censorious proposal from Warren,
>> no matter what her intentions are. Having the government regulate and criminalize
>> the internet - by deciding what "misinformation" is - is exactly the worst
>> solution to all of these problems.
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> George Soros on "Mark Zuckerberg Should Not Be in Control of Facebook"
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/opinion/soros-facebook-zuckerberg.html
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> William Randolph Hearst
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst
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> David Green's recent letter to the editor in the News-Gazette is not yet published online. When it appears online someone can followup with the URL for that letter.
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> News-Gazette letters to the editor
> https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/letters-editor/
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> "An open letter to the Green Party about 2020 election strategy"
> https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/01/25/an-open-letter-to-the-green-party-about-2020-election-strategy/
> https://ibw21.org/news/an-open-letter-to-the-green-party-about-2020-election-strategy/
> https://mavenroundtable.io/communityindependentjournal/politics/an-open-letter-to-the-green-party-for-2020-2lsF9NJfBkiP-mcy1NxZCQ
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> Aaron Maté's twitter post
> https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1223070626379902976
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> Anthony DiMaggio on "The Myth of the “Electable” Democrat: Neoliberal Bankruptcy, 2020 Edition"
> https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/31/the-myth-of-the-electable-democrat-neoliberal-bankruptcy-2020-edition/
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> Shadowproof
> https://shadowproof.com/
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> Unauthorized Disclosure episodes
> https://unauthorizeddisclosure.libsyn.com/
> RSS: http://unauthorizeddisclosure.libsyn.com/rss
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> Jimmy Dore on "DNC Stacks Convention Committees w/ Corporate Bernie Haters"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rc6r9TVjU
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> Spencer Neale on "Warren vows that ‘young trans person’ will choose her Secretary of Education"
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/warren-promises-young-trans-person-will-vet-secretary-of-education
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> All pages on the wsws.org site mentioning "1619 project"
> https://www.wsws.org/en/search.html?sectionId=&maxResults=100&phrase=1619+project&submit=Search
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> David North and Tom Mackaman on "A reply to the American Historical Review’s defense of the 1619 Project"
> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/31/ahrr-j31.html
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> Victoria Bynum on "My Response to Alex Lichtenstein Regarding the 1619 Project"
> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/31/resp-j31.html
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> Related: Tom Mackaman on "An interview with historian Clayborne Carson on the New York Times’ 1619 Project"
> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/15/clay-j15.html
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> Marxmail archives
> https://www.mail-archive.com/marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu/maillist.html
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> Alex Woodward on "Biden gets physical with voter in tense Iowa exchange over pipelines"
> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-push-voter-iowa-climate-change-2020-election-a9307146.html
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> Jimmy Dore on "Biden Snaps! Pushes Questioner - "Vote For Someone Else!"" (includes commentary on video of altercation)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSPDgGPUtTA
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> Adderall
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall
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> Pseudoephedrine
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoephedrine
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> J.B. Nicholson's notes
> https://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/2020-January/051809.html
> https://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace/2020-January/015648.html
> 
> -J
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