[Peace] My letter to the local news:

[kmedina67]

 Well done Susan!Whoa, one of Jan Predmore's paragraphs basically says, "genocide works"!Well, yes, genocide does work. But it is WRONG.Basically, the park district built the ideal nursery for Canadian Geese. Short grass, a gentle non-rocky slope between the water and the grass, water, easy flight into the pond, and a complete lack of preditors (including black bear, bobcat, and rat snakes, and people (it is illegal to hunt Canadian Geese)). And then the park district blames the geese? All we are saying is killing the geese is not the answer. More geese will come. Because it is an ideal place for geese. Changing the ideal geese conditions is one thing that should be done. 1) Plant taller native grasses that go right up to the pond. 2) make the slope a bit steeper (and more like a natural pond). Change the pond part of the park from being entirely people- centric to more wildlife centric. Surround the pond with native trees, native plants. The geese will find it less ideal (it is harder to land when there are trees near the pond, preditors might be hiding in the tall grasses) the other wildlife will increase. This is a long term solution.Slaughter is a short-term solution. - Karen Medina"The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great" - Mark Twain
-------- Original message --------From: Susan Parenti via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> Date: 5/24/20  14:52  (GMT-06:00) To: "Predmore, Janice C" <jan at illinois.edu> Cc: Peace List <peace at lists.chambana.net>, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Peace] My letter to the local news: Hello Jan and other friends and acquaintances—What Karen and other letter-writers are pointing out is NOT an argument that there is no over-population of the geese—yes, we completely join you in seeing one of the problems as over-population. What we are pointing out is the means by which the overpopulation is addressed by UPD—culling, or killing—when there are new, humane and successful ways to influence the overpopulation. Viktoria Ford spent considerable time with Derek Liebert, and with the organization GeesePeace, describing the humane and effective way they (Geese Peace) control overpopulation. Our group of ’save the geese urbana’ has found numerous examples of communities about our size, who have used effective and humane means to control overpopulation. Secondly,UPD gave us 11 days April 27 to May 9th, to participate in  ‘public dialogue’ (via a 6 question survey), then had a vote, and that was it. They, the UPD, have been working on this culling step for three years. We had11 days—they’ve had 1,095 days. I applaud Karen for making connections in ways many of us wouldn’t. Please join us in a rally around the geese this Tuesday, May26, 12 noon to 1pm, at the corner of park and Broadway. (People must wear masks, keep 6 feet away). We hope to have a mike or megaphone, and will welcome all the varieties of opinions that people may have. We’re not looking for agreement—we’re looking for time and space for Community dialogue. Which our hardworking and thoughtful park personnel do not offer. We’re also inviting the park District personnel to attend and to speak with us, answer questions. Warmly, also without malice—Susan Parenti> On May 24, 2020, at 2:32 PM, Predmore, Janice C via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:> > Your letter is wide ranging, drawing in several topics that seem off topic.  We’re contemplating a burgeoning flock of geese in our park.> > That the suggestion of removing a part of the flock has you thinking about recent wars (which I agree are awful & disgusting) is unfair to press on our park board as their responsibility to somehow ameliorate. > > My reaction to your claim that draconian measures to control population has never been effective ... just think back to your years in this area and count how many black bear, bobcat, common rat snake, and for that matter how many Native American families are you aware of ?   > > In my opinion the numbers of Canada Goose in Crystal Lake park must be reduced.  There will remain enough so that we can enjoy both them and the park. I support our hard working & thoughtful park personnel in the decision to reduce the flock numbers . > > Without malice,> Jan > > Sent from my iPhone> _______________________________________________> Peace mailing list> Peace at lists.chambana.net> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace_______________________________________________Peace mailing listPeace at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace
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