[Peace] Executions

[John W.]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:01 PM C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

John—
>
> Wouldn’t it have been better if the slaveowners had lost their “War of
> Independence” (1775-83)?
>
> Slavery would have been abolished in the British North American colonies
> as it was throughout the British empire.
>
> —CGE
>

Eventually.  Slavery wasn't abolished in Britain and her empire until 1833.

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Abolition-Of-Slavery/
<https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Abolition-Of-Slavery/>



> On Jan 13, 2021, at 2:28 PM, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:21 PM Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tragically, the two men also on death row will likely be executed as
> well within the next couple days.
> >
> > I’m glad to live in a state where such barbarism has been outlawed.
> Though the Federal gov., under the Trump administration over ruled and
> placed the death penalty on the table for a recent case.
> > Thankfully, the good people of Illinois chose to ignore it, and gave the
> monster killer, life instead.
> >
> > As Margaret Kimberly of the Black Agenda report pointed out recently in
> respect to US electoral laws, we have so many laws, procedures, rules etc.
> within each state differing from one another, that keeps us separated
> within the nation, we need some uniformity.
> >
> > Not her exact words, but its obvious that these differing state laws of
> which the death penalty is one, make it extremely difficult to achieve
> progress when the battles must be continually fought and won over decades.
> >
> > Well, it's interesting.  For every point of view, there's a
> countervailing point of view.
> >
> > As one who studied law formally, I absolutely hated the complexity of 50
> different sets of state laws, overlaid and often contradicted by the
> federal law.  It's a mess, and makes everything infinitely more
> complicated, more labrynthine, ultimately more incomprehensible.
> >
> > The idea originally was that the autonomy of the states would keep the
> federal government from growing too all-powerful.  We've seen how the
> states' autonomy has eroded over the years, both for good and ill.  (The
> Civil Rights Movement wouldn't have been possible without federal
> intervention.)  Sadly, the only people who are upset about it are those
> still fighting on the losing side of the Civil War.
> >
> > I honestly would have liked to see the South secede and become a
> separate country, albeit without slavery.  The North would have done just
> fine without them.  But that's a separate conversation.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 13, 2021, at 05:15, Debra Schrishuhn <deb.pdamerica at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sadly, tragically, no.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2021/01/12/lisa-montgomery-execution-once-again-set-take-place/6635726002/
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:40 AM John W. via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yay!!   We won!!  We did it!!!  By the time her competency hearing is
> finished, Joe Biden will have hopefully suspended federal executions once
> again!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:19 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.npr.org/2021/01/12/955984890/judge-blocks-execution-of-only-woman-on-federal-death-row
> >>
> >>
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