[RFU] Re: [Rfu-barnraising] Re: {leti} Re: the automation question

[Andy Gunn]

i think we can definately whip something up to turn streaming on and off.  either an audio switch to turn the audio on and off to the computer - or a software switch to turn the stream on and off.
-a


On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, doug hoepker wrote:

> As long as there is an option to turn this sucker on
> and off, I'm all for it, too. I want it on. I don't
> plan on playing more than a couple tracks from any
> given record in the course of my show -- and I can
> guarantee that no one else DJing at WRFU is going to
> be playing the same obscure crap that I am planning to
> play. Also, I see no need to let the listener know
> what I plan on playing during my show, but I question
> why this would be a rule. It seems silly, to say that
> you can't announce what you're planning on playing
> ahead of time. Why would that be a rule? (Or am I
> misunderstanding?)
> 
> By the way, are there different rules for LPFM and FM
> stations regarding webcasting? Because I listen to
> several streaming stations (KEXP in Seattle or WFMU in
> Jersey) and they both announce ahead of time what
> they're going to play, and in the case of KEXP they
> most definitely exceed the number of spins per disc
> rule in any given week.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> -Doug
> 
> --- Phil Stinard <pstinard at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Norman,
> > 
> > Thanks for putting down the regulations in black and
> > white.  This looks like 
> > a good policy for WRFU to consider if it decides to
> > webcast.  I wouldn't 
> > have any problem with the streaming of non-music
> > programs.  As it stands, 
> > though, I would definitely turn streaming OFF on my
> > program.  I want to 
> > announce my playlist in advance, and there are times
> > when I would want to 
> > play an entire album, like Andrés Jiménez's "Jesus,
> > El Hijo de Dios," which 
> > is a complete work in 16 tracks that make a thematic
> > whole.
> > 
> > --Phil
> > 
> > >From: Norman Stockwell <normstoc at wort-fm.org>
> > >To: Phil Stinard <pstinard at hotmail.com>
> > >CC: sascha at ucimc.org, andrew at funferal.org,
> > leti at lists.prometheusradio.org,  
> > >       rfu-barnraising at lists.chambana.net,
> > rfu at lists.chambana.net
> > >Subject: Re: [RFU] Re: [Rfu-barnraising] Re: {leti}
> > Re: the automation 
> > >question
> > >Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:23:25 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Phil Stinard wrote:
> > >
> > >>I expressed concerns about streaming at last
> > night's barnraising meeting, 
> > >>but apparently to no avail, since no one is
> > addressing the concerns I 
> > >>expressed.  My concerns are:  (1) cost of
> > recurring licensing fees, and 
> > >>(2) restrictions on content (number of songs by a
> > particular artist or 
> > >>from a particular album).  I hear people saying
> > that the FCC rules and 
> > >>licensing rules don't matter, but I'm not willing
> > to take that chance.  Do 
> > >>you want WRFU to lose its license to broadcast if
> > someone decides to get 
> > >>legalistic on us?  If someone gives us the money
> > and we can stream, fine, 
> > >>but if I have content that is not allowed, as I
> > certainly will, I'll just 
> > >>turn the stream off during my program.  I trust we
> > will at least have that 
> > >>option.
> > >>
> > >>--Phil
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >WORT in Madison has had many discussions about
> > streamiong - echoing all the 
> > >points that have been raised on this list so far. 
> > We, too, are concerned 
> > >about what it does to localism when you stream
> > world wide. We, too, have 
> > >great concerns over the content restrictions of the
> > DMCA. Our licensing 
> > >costs, thankfully, are covered by CPB.  There are
> > deals for smaller 
> > >stations on fees - Ginny at NFCB would have
> > details.
> > >
> > >What we decided to do (in response to great
> > listener demand - not just 
> > >people who had moved from Madison, but people who
> > could not receive our 
> > >signal *in town* because they work in large
> > concrete office bldgs) is, at 
> > >least for now, stream only our News & Public
> > Affairs shows.  Later we will 
> > >add music.
> > >
> > >Local talk programs can be streamed with much less
> > bandwidth (64k mono 
> > >sounds great) and it doesn't run afoul of the DMCA.
> >  We also drafted a 
> > >policy to allow *any* programmer to turn off the
> > stream for a portion, a 
> > >whole show, or their program completely.  I have
> > pasted the text below.  
> > >Hope this is useful, Norm.
> > >
> > >======
> > >
> > >Addition to Volunteer Handbook - 1-10-05 [as
> > amended and passed by BoD 
> > >5-25-05] This should go on current page 16 after
> > "Broadcasting & Copyright" 
> > >and before "EAS tests" -
> > >
> > >SPECIFIC REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO WEBCASTING
> > >
> > >In addition to regulations governing broadcasting
> > on WORT, if your program 
> > >is being streamed live or archived on the internet,
> > additional regulations 
> > >apply.  Many of these stem from the "Digital
> > Millenium Copyright Act" or 
> > >DMCA.  Some of these are detailed below.
> > >
> > >The WORT Board of Directors have determined that
> > any programmer may choose 
> > >to not have their program streamed live. This
> > applies to an entire program, 
> > >an individual show, or a portion of an individual
> > show. Programmers are 
> > >given the ability to "turn off the switch" that
> > routes their program's 
> > >audio to the streaming server. If a programmer
> > chooses to allow their 
> > >program to be streamed, they MUST abide by the
> > regulations below. Failure 
> > >to do so will result in disciplinary action.
> > >
> > >The DMCA governs some choices in program content.
> > If a music show is being 
> > >streamed live, no more than three songs by the same
> > artist, or four songs 
> > >from a boxed set may be played during a three hour
> > period (this includes 
> > >times that may fall before or after your show).
> > Bootlegs may never be 
> > >played.
> > >
> > >The DMCA requires special record keeping. If a
> > program is being streamed 
> > >live, the programmer must type or upload their
> > playlist into the computer 
> > >provided in the studio in order to have the song
> > title, artist & label 
> > >information available DURING the playing of the
> > work. (In addition, 
> > >programmers may not pre-announce sets under the
> > DMCA).
> > >
> > >If you have any questions regarding the material
> > you plan to use in your 
> > >show and its appropriateness for webstreaming,
> > please consult the 
> > >programming staff BEFORE you go on the air. 
> > Failure to comply with the 
> > >DMCA could cause WORT to lose its ability to
> > webcast and will expose WORT 
> > >to substantial legal and financial liability.
> > >
> > >The programmer ending their airshift is responsible
> > for informing the 
> > >host/engineer of the next show whether or not the
> > streaming switch is 
> > >turned on, and ascertaining whether it should be
> > left on when they conclude 
> > >their show.


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