[IMC-US] Setting up IMC-US:

[Sascha Meinrath]

Hi Boud,

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, boud wrote:

> hi sascha,
>    IMHO, IMC US is intended to be a regional, bottom-up grouping of 
> existing IMCs - it's not clear whether the new-imc process is either
> necessary or sufficient for approval by the network. 

Alright, I'll cc imc-process on correspondences from here on out.  Also,
be aware that the affinty group that is working on setting up the IMC-US
should be cc-ed on stuff <imc-us at ucimc.org> -- I'm a liaison from this
group who's working on getting us through the Global process, but I don't
speak on its behalf.
 
> However, since IMC US is asking for some sort of "legitimacy" from the
> network by going through the process, then you should expect some real
> discussion, which is why for the moment you're not ready for a 3-day
> internal deadline, and certainly not for a 1-day deadline!

I wish the process were better spelled out.  It's very confusing since the 
process laid on on http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
states:

> Your new-imc contact proposes your site
> 
> internally to new-imc, if no one blocks within 3 days, this is passed to 
>
> globally to http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-process/ and
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-communication and if no
> one blocks there within 7 days, then...  
> you become part of the network.
 
I have been trying to follow the process, but it seems that it's fairly 
implicit and when one doesn't know the rules people get angry with you.  

> Please once again read
> 
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
> 
> It seems to me that you have not done, e.g. step 3.  In order to get
> password access to locally manage your own contact database entry, you
> need to go through step 3.

I've been trying to do "step 3" for 3+ weeks!!!  I filled out the form
several weeks ago, but apparantly nothing happened.  I figured it would be
taken care of.  I've been trying to access the http://newimc.indymedia.org
page, but keep getting server errors...  it's not that we're ignoring the
process, but something isn't working and I wouldn't want to get held up
indefinitely by technical problems/

> In addition to blicero's and rosa's concerns, it would be nice to have
> a full set of answers to the
> 
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/MembershipCriteria
>
> especially:
> 
> * decision-making method
> 
> * face-to-face meetings

I think these are fairly well covered in the IMC-US proposal, but I agree 
that having them in a point-by-point format would be useful.  I'll get on 
this ASAP and get that out to the IMC-process and New-IMC lists.  Thanks 
for the feedback and let the IMC-US group know what else should be done.

In solidarity,

--Sascha Meinrath

> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Blicero wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 04:07:51PM -0500, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > I just wanted to let everyone know the internal new-imc deadline for the
> > > IMC-US proposal:
> > > 
> > > http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2003-August/004275.html
> > > 
> > > In solidarity,
> > > 
> > 
> > sorry but normallly this 3-days daeadline comes after the forwarding of
> > editorial policy, missio statement and principle of unity
> > as well as a clear statement about how the site will look like in terms of op
> > and so on
> > 
> > i don't see why us imc should be different
> > 
> > (i find interesting the idea of having a us imc even if i would prefer a major
> > effort into getting www.indymedia.org more "representative" of a global network)
> > seems to me more like curing a syumpthom than the disease :)))))
> > 
> > anyway i would like the above point to be addressed :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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