[IMC-US] A good point about open publishing

[ana]

Hmmm. that is weird. i was sure we had somethign different in there about OP
because it was a concern when we had a caucus at the AMC last year and the
draft that came out of that had a different clause about op. but i guess
something changed. 

i just found the original proposal we sent to newimc and it seems vague, as
in it wasnt decided entirely. 
http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2003-August/004310.html

First it says (which i wrongfully remembered as saying 'might' follow
global's model):

"The suggested format for the US site is a syndicated newswire of US-
features, much like the global site syndicates features from IMCs around
the world.  Syndication was chosen specifically as the recommended format
due to problems of open-publishing newswire abuse and following the
precendent set on the global Indymedia website (i.e., the open newswire
will be available off the main page).  

and then it says: 

EDITORIAL:  The editorial group will be responsible for newswire
maintenance (if an open newswire is part of the site) and feature
writing/compiling/editing.

So, maybe it wasnt completely decided yet. I dont remember. But I also dont
want to hold this process up any more.  So, while i dont think it is a good
idea at all to have an op function on the site, I wont block having it as
an option. 

It hurts though, because i think peopel will be attracted to the "broader
exposure" of a national site and the tendency might go towards not posting
on local sites anymore. A real shame. Additionally, we will need
*quadruple* the amount of peopel working on site mantainance to monitor the
wire and take off racist posts, etc. 

And lastly could someone working on code check to see if stories would still
get picked up by google news with an op wire on it. Either way, we should
make sure the site is being built to facilitate getting picked up on google
news. i know democracy now has had real issues with that because it wasnt
thought of before hand. im sorry if i missed posts about this already. but
has anyone looked into that at all?

gnight all. 
ana
 



Quoting john duda <john at manifestor.org>:

> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 11:45:11PM -0400, Ana wrote:
> > 
> > Re New imc process:  I believe it was in our application that we would
> not
> > have open publishing, precisely because of local IMC concerns that we
> were
> > taking their local traffic away.
> 
> could you point me to the documents?  i've been having a really hard
> time trying to trace out the imc-us approval process due to broken
> mailman links in the archives, all the stuff i've seen so far has
> indicated that usimc was approved on the assumption it would have an
> op wire.
> 
> 
> for example: 
> 
> http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2003-September/004411.html
> email from Sascha to new-imc outlining imc-us' committments to IMC
> Membership 
> Criteria
> 
> f. Agree to the use of Open Publishing as described in the NIMC Editorial
> 
> Policy [editorial collective comments: "We did agree that the term "Open
> 
> Publishing" was one that is still being defined by the Global Network 
> Collective, and we would wait and see what the results were before 
> rewriting this criteria]:
> 
> The IMC-US affinity group agrees to do this.
> 
> http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/imc-process/2003-October/005187.html
> 
> (philly imc's non-blocking suggestions)
>  
> - That the newswire have an open publishing feature as well as a
> syndication
> feature, using for example the same format as the global site, to
> encourage democratic participation in the news-making process.
> 
> 
> 
> i'm not trying to be disruptive, but i am really concerned that
> launching an indymedia site with a strong editorial voice and a lack
> of open publishing is setting a new and probably controversial
> precedent, one which may generate a lot of animosity for the imc us
> project in the global network.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I am strongly opposed to an op wire on the US site. We should just be a
> tool
> > to highlight the work of local IMCs.
> > 
> > On 7/19/04 9:27 PM, "jon pike" <profpike at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Tribal put in a reminder that this site will be
> > > covering the RNC and newswires have proven valuable in
> > > the past for getting stuff up quickly about
> > > significant protest actions.
> > > 
> > > So, maybe it would be good to have such a function on
> > > the site. After all didn't FTAAIMC, or is that a
> > > differnet case entirely?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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