[IMC-US] turtle.indymedia.org

[faith swords]

hi everyone,

while i think it's really cool to try to come up with alternatives to
"us.indymedia", i feel that the turtle island idea is too confusing to be
useful. i don't think that anyone will really know what we're referring
to, if we use that name. i myself would be very confused.

i also feel that this should be a resource for people in general -- not
just indymedia folks, or progressive folks, but regular people who want to
get their news from a source that isn't somehow on the government's
payroll. i think that kind of user would be confused and possibly put off
by the turtle island name.

i think we should stick with the us.indymedia name, because it's
straightforward and practical.

--faith from urbana

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 bradley at riseup.net wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I wish i could have made it to AMC. Thanks for sending out notes about the
> indymedia caucus. I'm Bradley, a volunteer with santa cruz indymedia. I'm
> going to respond to one of bht's emails below, and then add my comments
> about code-base, focus, and hate speech / trolling.
>
>
> > the native americans referred to america as "turtle island".  While it is
> > comfusing to call it turtle island imc, that could be gotten around and it
> > is a good way to alleviate the concerns of validating the united states.
> >
> > in the banner, it could say "turtle island imc" and below it faded could
> > say something like "a syndication site for united states imc's"
>
>
> Turtle Island Indymedia sounds great to me!
> (Let's payback Josh for indymedia.us)
>
> Let's use turtle.indymedia.org!
>
> I think we should also get turtleisland.indymedia.org
>
> There is already a site called Turtle Island Native Network with the URL
> turtleisland.org, which is fine with with me ( ;
>
> > Furthermore, I personally feel that the newswire should be syndication
> > only, when people push the "publish" button it should take them to a page
> > with local imcs and have a note for them to pich the closest imc to them
> > geographically.
>
>
> I support that idea very much!
>
>
> > As far as an editorial team and feature writers, I think that should be
> > very organic.  Many local imc's currently have in place an editorial team
> > that writes features for their local and just making them features on
> > turtle island imc saves work time and promotes local work.  But, there
> > will still be times when it would be good to collaborate and make specific
> > features so I wouldnt want to make any policy saying one way or the other.
>
>
> I agree here too.
>
>
> > I think that is all I have for now.
> > bht
> > portland
>
>
> I've been using the editorial features of DadaIMC since Santa Cruz made
> the switch from Active to DadaIMC (at least a year ago...) I used Mir's
> editorial features while working on FTAAimc.org. Both interfaces are very
> nice, and each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Furthermore,
> SF-Active certainly has some great features as well, like Indybay's topic
> pages and calendar interface! (I can go on about my feelings at some
> point...) Overall though, I feel that turtle island indymedia would run
> the smoothest on Mir!
>
> Again, I can go into details later, but one really nice aspect of Mir is
> the ease of communication between the editorial collective. Mir has a
> built in message board for communication within the interface and there is
> a place to leave editorial comments within each individual article!
>
> I liked bht's idea to have a focus on anti-racism as well as
> political-prisoners, but I feel that the work of Critical Resistance is
> very important. CR sees ALL prisoners as political-prisoners, and
> therefore does not distinguish between 'political-prisoners' and
> 'non-political-prisoners' or 'regular prisoners.' for more on that, check
> criticalresistance.org and
> http://santacruz.indymedia.org/newswire/display/8629/index.php
>
> And, I agree with bht about feeding the trolls and I don't like doing it.
> Trolls are annoying and i support a publishing policy against abuse.
> Several abuses have been meantioned already, and I would definately add
> 'publishing fake articles' as one of the abuses. I can say more, but I
> don't like feeding the trolls. A specific forum for talking about trolls
> is a good idea given the reality of the situation, but if the trolls are
> able to troll through the forum, then that forum may work to our
> disadvantage....
>
> sincerely,
> Bradley
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