[IMC-US] Re: fallujah

Fri Nov 5 14:41:49 CST 2004

one thing i would like to see in doing "global" stories(or even
national ones) is that we try to synthesize as much as possible from
independent media, and try as much as possible to connect what might
just be a wire story with connections not just to the US as a
hegemonic global actor, but as a site of dissent and resistance. 

i think we've done a good job of this with the election story so far,
which has been a non-local event which could have easily been covered
in a far worse fashion(i.e. with a good deal less attention to a
diversity of independent viewpoints and less emphasis on concrete
social counter-action).

if we could do the same thing for the iraq issue, tieing together the
best independent and underreported stories with bottom-up coverage of
the resistance to the imperial agenda in the US itself, while still
continuing to keep the heat on all fronts of the electoral
issue(widespread disenfranchisement, lack of real choice or
substantive democracy, and 'why do the masses want fascism?'), i think
we'd be doing a good job....

On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:34:00PM -0500, Ana Nogueira wrote:
> I also want to be careful about our relationship with global. But global has
> a very particular and I would even say peculiar definition of what news
> should become a feature.
> 
>  one of the main reasons I personally wanted a usimc site is because I have
> been disappointed by the LACK of coverage on global about iraq, and
> generally all the us stories with real global ramifications.
> 
> I think the us imc is poised to be a lot more hard-hitting and fast-paced.
> And definately global in news scope too. Us bombing fallujah is definitely a
> us news story, and I don?t know why the global site would pick this current
> bombing phase to feature when they have ignored so many in the past.
> 
> I think we can accomplish covering all of this if we a) pull more imcs into
> the syndication, and b) promote as many global stories from us sites as we
> do local stories. And write our own feature compilations too that cross both
> lines. 
> 
> Peace
> ana
> 
> On 11/5/04 2:33 PM, "deva" <drdartist at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> > I would say that us-imc should cover us news
> > 
> > Now since the us has its nose and its fist spread all across the world,
> > all news is in a way us news, but I think us-imc should be very careful
> > about harming global imc
> > 
> > I am torn, because Fallujah is important news to get out to United
> > Statesians, but if us-imc starts featuring the important news to get
> > out to people, it becomes another kind of global features site. I
> > prefer the idea of syndicating the global features in some manner
> > 
> > deva
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 5, 2004, at 9:03 AM, max wrote:
> > 
> >> well I think this will be an ongoing discussion..what to feature on
> >> us.indy,
> >> what to leave for other IMCs.
> >> 
> >> we should definitely get something up on what's going on in fallujah
> >> 
> >> http://www.freep.com/news/nw/iraq5e_20041105.htm
> >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/
> >> 2002082787_fallujah05.html
> >> http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/14525909
> >> http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=11799
> >> 
> >> etc. but I couldn't find any independent coverage/analysis at all.
> >> anyone
> >> know of anything already written up?
> >> 
> >> max
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Quoting bht <bht at indymedia.org>:
> >> 
> >>> i am also against having this a feature of us imc.  i think its place
> >>> on
> >>> us imc would be in the syndicated feature wire should indybay feature
> >>> it
> >>> on their local page.
> >>> 
> >>> this is a global story.  it belongs on the global page, i almost think
> >>> it
> >>> would be good to highlight somewhere on the site other indy sites like
> >>> us
> >>> imc.  there is global, of course, and there is also oceania
> >>> syndication
> >>> site.
> >>> 
> >>> also, i am very concerned about the crossposting on indy sites, and i
> >>> especially worry about the relationship that us.indy will have with
> >>> indymedia.org
> >>> 
> >>> i dont know how many of you are familiar with the global process and
> >>> such,
> >>> but global imc working group is a very small group of people that take
> >>> original submissions or compile features themselves and post them as
> >>> features.
> >>> 
> >>> i think the actual number of people that actively participate in
> >>> global
> >>> features right now is 4 or 6.  And quite a few of the people on this
> >>> list
> >>> and actively doing work on this site are people that used to be
> >>> involved
> >>> with global features.  So the energy and momentum is switching, as it
> >>> should.
> >>> 
> >>> I kind of lost my track of thought, so I am going to stop rambling.
> >>> But,
> >>> I think my main point was that we should create a symbiotic
> >>> relationship
> >>> with other indy sites, especially global.
> >>> bht
> >>> 
> >>> ahhh! Chris Anderson
> >>>>> And we don't have to mention the US connection in
> >>>>> every story either.  If we did it would
> >>>>> sound like the RCP having to mention Bob Avakian in
> >>>>> every story, speech, etc.  The
> >>>>> cumulative coverage of the site will make the US
> >>>>> connection clear.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I disagree with the above statement in general, but am
> >>>> not opposed to this feature specifically. That said, I
> >>>> dont see why we shouldn't mention the impact Arafat's
> >>>> death will have on the US.  There's a way to do it so
> >>>> we dont "sound like bob avakian."
> >>>> 
> >>>> chris
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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