[IMC-US] all volunteer PROPOSAL

[Aaron Couch]

i disagree with the volunteer proposal.

however, it appears that the majority of people support it.  if it does pass, 
i would ask that the rationale for 'all volunteers' be articulated in
terms of the goals and vision of the site.  i think that the short
visioning process at the meeting is a good corallary to the volunteer
proposal and place where this can happen.

i would like to throw my two cents in as far as vision and goals and
volunteers but am resisting doing so b/c it has been stated that this
is not the place for that debate, and that the meeting is an
opportunity to share those ideas.

since it appears that this debate has occured before, could someone
point me to the archives of and threads of the different perspectives?
are there written sources or succesful examples of 'all volunteer'
organizations that could frame this discussion?

best,

-Aaron


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:27:42 -0800 (PST), bht <bht at indymedia.org> wrote:
> perhaps in this irc discussion we can also talka bout some visions that we
> have for the site and see if we can come up with anything common and play
> on that.
> 
> it would be cool if folks that wanted to be involved threw out a couple
> day/times (and zones) that usually work best for them.
> 
> and any agenda items they would like to see discussed.  apparently the
> agenda already looks like this:
> 
> 1.  decision making
> 2.  houston volunteer proposal
> 3.  short visioning ( where folks can just throw out any visions they have
> for the site and then they can be compiled and perhaps at a later
> 'meeting' they cn be processed )
> 4.  site layout/design
> 5.
> 6.
> 
> it would be better to keep agenda items short becuase meetings over
> machines tend to be hard.  so many just picking out an arbitrary amount of
> agenda items and procesisng them as best possible.  any takers?
> bht
> 
> ahhh! max
> > I ALSO  think that this is a good idea.
> >
> > but I think it would make sense to have an IRC meeting and decide on a
> > decision making process for this list first.
> >
> > max
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting bht <bht at indymedia.org>:
> >
> >> i also think it is a good idea to adopt this somewhere in our articles.
> >>
> >> does anyone have a suggestion for consensing/voting/adopting this.
> >> bht
> >>
> >> ahhh! muna rva imc
> >> >
> >> > I fully support US IMC resolving to be an all-volunteer collective.
> >> > Richmond
> >> > Indymedia did this as soon as Houston posted their statement.
> >> >
> >> > X,
> >> > M.
> >> >
> >> > Quoting ana <ana at riseup.net>:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jan 13, 2005, at 8:23 PM, nick wrote
> >> >> >
> >> >> > from a friend in NYC:
> >> >> > "The Indypendent is currently paying an ad manager and
> >> >> > an office manager. It should be clarified that this is
> >> >> > an Indy only thing, and not the policy of the NYC-IMC
> >> >> > as a whole."
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> hey all,
> >> >>
> >> >> a) clarification, i would say the paper gives someone a stipend to
> >> fill
> >> >> a role that is terribly described as office manager and we give a cut
> >> >> of ad revenue to anyone who goes out and finds ads.
> >> >>
> >> >> b) i doubt the nyc imc and the uc imc are the only ones in the
> >> network
> >> >> who do this sort of thing. i know seattle did it for a while. so did
> >> >> palestine and israel imcs. there are probably more i dont know about.
> >> >>
> >> >> c) i personally support the idea of the us-imc remaining an
> >> >> all-volunteer project.
> >> >>
> >> >> d) i agree we should avoid getting into this debate here. i know some
> >> >> people dont like the fact that some imcs do this. we have gone
> >> through
> >> >> this. the network will soon do a survey of some kind to see if there
> >> is
> >> >> a consensus to making it "illegal".
> >> >>
> >> >> peace
> >> >> ana
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> IMC-US mailing list
> >> >> IMC-US at lists.ucimc.org
> >> >> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/imc-us
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > IMC-US mailing list
> >> > IMC-US at lists.ucimc.org
> >> > http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/imc-us
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> IMC-US mailing list
> >> IMC-US at lists.ucimc.org
> >> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/imc-us
> >>
> >
> 
> --
> 
> _______________________________________________
> IMC-US mailing list
> IMC-US at lists.ucimc.org
> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/imc-us
>